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Post by winduptoy on Aug 27, 2011 8:19:36 GMT -8
I don't understand why I can't really believe in a god. It's insanely frustrating because it seems like every time I ask for a sign or for help with a particular thing, I get it. And every time I say to myself and whatever might be listening, okay, this time I'll have to believe. But I never can.
I'm not and I imagine never will be a Christian, at least not in the way any Christian church deems acceptable. I went to a bible study for the first time last night (and knew more of the answers to the leader's questions than the devout Christians in the group; go figure!) and spent a fair amount of it grinding my teeth. I follow a blend of catholicism, paganism, agnosticism with a little buddhism thrown in for flavor. Probably a few other influences I'm not thinking of at the moment.
Heck, I've tried to convert outright to atheism and that didn't take either, because I couldn't be convinced that there isn't a god! I have no idea how people ever manage to feel certain about things, because for me it's always "I don't know."
I don't believe in the dtoxic, but sometimes I feel sure he must have my soul, if I have one of those.
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Post by happyberry on Aug 27, 2011 9:40:32 GMT -8
it took me a very long time to develop my faith and mine is absolutely not christian at all. My HP morphs all the time.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Aug 27, 2011 11:30:18 GMT -8
My whole family believed in God. I was the only one who could not "get it." I wanted to but I just couldn't.
In 1982 I surrounded myself with spiritual people.
I worked the 12 steps which are spiritual.
I got stuck on "came to believe."
My sponsor had me memorize some prayers and "act as if" I believed.
"What would someone do if they believed," she said. "Do that."
I prayed. I meditated. I became charitable. I was kind. I turned the other cheek as much as I could.
One day I was sitting in an AA meeting and a euphoria took over me. For about three minutes I was in a blissful altered state.
After it passed I believe (1) that God existed and was interacting with us in the present and (2) he/she/it loved me.
I burst out in tears at the idea that I was loved unconditionally. My sins (shortcomings) were legion.
I asked my sponsor what had happened. She said I had just had a "spiritual awakening" or what they call in AA a "warm wind experience."
I still have the faith I gained that day.
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Post by Bo on Aug 27, 2011 14:29:39 GMT -8
I understand your frustration.
Do you believe the sun will rise tomorrow even though it hasn't yet? When it rains, do you believe it will eventually stop? or do you worry that it will continue for 40 days and 40 night, and someone will need to build an ark?
if you said yes, then, You actually do believe in things you don't see, can't touch, don't understand, and cannot control. Believing in a God or Higher Power is something like that and in a sense, if you Believe in those things above (no pun intended) you kinda already Believe in a Higher Power, because who else controls those things?
Then again, maybe you are more of a "Spiritual" person than a "Believe in God" kinda person.
I believe it's all kinda the same thing.
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