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Post by LovelyJune on Nov 14, 2008 5:36:05 GMT -8
So…I’m bored yesterday and dreaming up dreams of the future and thinking of this new guy (lawyer, cute, recently divorced, been flirting with me for a couple weeks now etc.), and despite the fact that i've only been broken up with my ex one month, i thought, heck, why not dream of someone else for a change. At first, I was quite happy to even be thinking of moving on so quickly. YOu know how it is: you play it all out in your head, the flirting, the meeting etc. Everything seems so exciting. Oh the possibilities! Oh the fantasies!
Then suddenly, out of NO WHERE, out of the blue, this crushing pain overcame me with such intensity that I literally fell to the floor weeping for the loss of my ex. I was paralyzed. And all the hope of moving on to greener pastures flew out the window. I was almost angry with this poor unsuspecting new guy…like, how dare he tread on sacred ground that still belongs to S.
Of course, i soon realized that despite my emotional vicissitudes and unwanted insight, i am simply not ready to move on-- at least not yet. But! I am getting there.
In fact, today, I recalled my state of my mind before me and my ex split and i was getting very frustrated and disappointed in the relationship. I was beginning to see things clearly-- that S was not as perfect as I hoped he'd be. So...today, i have greater perspective.
Overall though, i wish to God i wasn't so obsessed with men in general. There's a whole WORLD out there and i want to find other interests. These are my current goals (always setting goals for myself!)
-to be back in grad school by next Sept. and FINISH (i had to drop out over the summer due to work and no funds) -to be able to fill my brain with more important stuff other than MEN -to maintain my sense of Dignity -to continue running despite my bad knee -to find a second job -to finish writing something i've been working on for 5 years.
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Post by Sexlessw on Nov 14, 2008 6:14:29 GMT -8
T:
Here is the operative goal for you, for me, for many women:
"to be able to fill my brain with more important stuff other than MEN"
Keep that in mind as you focus on all of those ATTAINABLE goals you have listed.
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Post by LovelyJune on Mar 3, 2010 4:01:03 GMT -8
Wow! Once again, I am re-reading this stuff after a year and a half and quite proud that I accomplished all those goals. AND got over the ex AND started dating "the new guy" whom I love more every day...
My point: make goals for yourself! Take risks and don't be afraid to let go of what you think is important. You don't lose, you gain!
"It is a sublime thing to suffer and be stronger."
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, American educator and poet
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Post by vee25 on Mar 4, 2010 5:02:09 GMT -8
"It is a sublime thing to suffer and be stronger." This saying gives me strength just knowing this!
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Post by higherlove on Apr 28, 2010 6:06:52 GMT -8
Thank you Telmita, Congratulations! You fill me with hope. Perhaps a year and a half from now I will be as happy as you are now. Thank you for inspiring me.
I am three weeks post-break-up and have been considering a new thing with a new guy. He is actually totally wrong for me, but that is another post... I had that same experience you described in falling to the floor (or in my case onto my couch) and crying over my ex out of the blue.... I was surprised, but realized (I like that word ~ REAL ized) that I was in no way ready yet to be considering a new thing with anyone. At what point did you REAL ize you were ready?
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Post by LovelyJune on Apr 28, 2010 15:57:33 GMT -8
Higherlove,
Glad to know my tale helps. Everyone's path is different, but i can tell you I never really felt ready this last time. I never got to the point of desperation, which normally happens (and which normally ends up in me taking anything that comes down the path). This time was different. I wasn't interested in dating, but an opportunity for the "right" man arose. I had always been attracted to bad boys, alcoholics, men who couldn't commit to women, etc. But when this man came into my life he was a professional, respectable in the community, well loved, had children that he loved dearly and took care of, went to church, very responsible etc., when this kind man came into my life I decided I would just TRY to date him, even if I wasn't crazy about him. Nothing serious though. I wasn't interested (remember?). And the ONLY reason I said yes was because he had a great rep, NO RED FLAGS and I took my time to make sure how I felt about him. There was no rush to love. Well...what ended up happening was....we fell in love (it's been 1.4 years we've been together). So, to answer your question, there was no exact moment when I was "ready," I simply took conscious steps toward friendship with this man and it happened to turn into something more. And the more I got to know him, the more trust I built up for him and the more I saw I was not going to be hurt by this man. When that amount of trust and confidence is able to be built between two people, You, as an individual, grow stronger and are able to focus on other things except love and constantly trying to hook up and "find" someone. It's a paradox.
To find love, you must stop looking for it outside yourself. When you look inside and find it there, others notice too!
Hope that wasn't too cryptic.
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Post by gordana on Jun 12, 2010 6:58:40 GMT -8
Interesting post. I have been away from poa for 1 year and only 1 slip. From which I learned that we are done. He contacted me and I replied. It took me back a couple of a steps, but it only lasted for about a week. I do not want that pain again. I have been thinking if I am ready for a man. Before this relationship, I was alone for 10 years, since my divorce. I did not have any interests for a man. Took care of my children, went back to school, graduated with honors. Developed new friendships. When I met my poa after 10 years of celibacy i fell head over heals for him. And he for me. I learned about love addiction when I went back into therapy because he was triggering my past. I have been on her for a year and I feel good about myself, but I am worried why I do not have interest for a man. I am just happy being on my own. I had gone on dates, and with several men, and was able to stop because they were not for me I want to have someone in my life, but what do I do? How do I start. Those feelings I have for men all my life are gone? gordana p.s. I am learning a lot from you Telmida, i love your posts
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Post by LovelyJune on Jun 13, 2010 3:52:01 GMT -8
Hi Gordana, Thank you! Your situation can be one of two things (neither of which I can tell from your post, but both of which you should try to learn more about): 1. You are sexually anorexic. This basically means that you've shut down completely to men and you've gone the opposite extreme. Sometimes, when we love with such unhealthy intensity for a period, we go in the complete opposite direction to heal when the intensity is over. This used to happen to me. It's like you've been running a marathon for a year, and then suddenly, the marathon is over and you get sick and hibernate for another year. It is my belief that we are merely trying to balance out the acts of our life, but we are doing it in an unhealthy way (going from one extreme to the other). Instead, we want subtle rocking; we want balance. We don't want the boat to tip over again. That being said, if you feel you are sexually anorexic, you might want to look into removing your fear of intimacy and removing all the hidden emotions and expectations you have of love. When we interpret love as something average (instead of something of EXTREME IMPORTANCE) we react to it with more balanced emotions. Think about it. Or... 2. You truly ENJOY being alone. What? How can that be??? I guess with all the Hollywood glamorization of Love being mandatory, we forget that it's NOT. Yes, as human beings we need LOVE...But love can come from family, friends, pets, etc. That may sound boring and scary to a love addict who has placed such an enormously high value on Love, but the truth is, we do not NEED romance. You may truly be happy on your own. You may truly be happy without someone. The trick is, YOU must find out the truth of your own life. ANd you must be happy with yourself for whatever your nature calls you to do. It's when we deny ourselves things out of fear that we suffer. Or we stay in bad relationships for fear of being independent that we do ourselves a huge injustice. Recovery in love addiction means knowing who you are, making peace with the person you are, and being OK with or without a partner. Sounds so easy....and yet...
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Post by gordana on Jun 15, 2010 18:12:48 GMT -8
Thank you for that Telmida. I have been thinking a lot about who I really am. About my nature. Do I want to share my life with someone or not. And what kind of relationship would I want? I know what I don't want. Verbally abusive man. No. Someone who wants to change me. No. A long distance relationship. No. No alcoholics, no drug addicts, no married men, of course. When I eliminate these, who is left? A nice man. That's what I am afraid of. There is a big obstacle here. Which i do not understand. I did have some nice men in my life, men that wanted to be with me, but these are the men I did not want to be with. I wonder why I do not want to be with someone who wants to be with me/ I guess its time to explore that side of me. I am still ashamed of the number of men I had been with. Mostly before marriage. My marriage was a disaster, and so was the relationship after that. I want to find out who I really am when it comes to a relationship.
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Post by LovelyJune on Jul 15, 2010 2:47:05 GMT -8
I did have some nice men in my life, men that wanted to be with me, but these are the men I did not want to be with. I wonder why I do not want to be with someone who wants to be with me/ I guess its time to explore that side of me. Gordana-- We reject healthy partners when we are not healthy. It's as simple as that. Water seeks its own level. When you reject a healthy man it's probably because you feel awkward, strange, weird, like you don't belong in their presence. I did this for MANY years. I wanted to feel accepted. I wanted to feel good about myself. I didn't want some perfect healthy man coming along and having HIGH EXPECTATIONS of me. That was too much for me to handle. Besides, I didn't think I had anything to offer a healthy man. And the truth is, ten, five, three years ago, I didn't have much to offer someone healthy. But the more you INVEST in yourself, the more you participate in healthy behavior and associate with healthy people, the stronger and healthier YOU become.
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Post by gordana on Sept 5, 2010 19:33:40 GMT -8
I'm feeling the desire to be in a relationship. I have not met any men in real life, so I have been on line talking to people. In this past 15 months without my poa, I had a few meetings with men i met on line. I had no problems reading red flags and deciding they were not for me. I have grown so much. The guilt I used to feel to say to a man that I was not interested used to be huge. Today I talked to a man that seemed normal to me. Told me he had a career he was proud of, was divorced and took care of his 2 sons. He did not have a picture and sent me one upon my request. He is different than what I would have chosen before. But, he asked me if I wanted to go for a walk. I told him it was too soon and we should get to know each other a bit more, talk on line. He agreed and I agreed to meet him next week, if I was interested. I'm starting to wonder if he will contact me after refusing his request. But I do not want to contact him first. I also feel he is too good for me. Has more money than me, in better shape than me. More interests. And I am starting to feel ashamed of who I am. So, I am not sure if I want to meet with him. I hate the feeling of not being deserving of something or someone good. I am just realizing this is happening at work too. I feel shame to the core when something good comes my way I would like some feedback on this, if anyone has. Thank you for taking time to read gordana
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Post by gordana on Sept 6, 2010 11:43:10 GMT -8
I cant help myself. I just emailed him: "Just wanted to say "Hi". I am a bit angry at myself b/ when he asked me to meet in person yesterday I said No, that we should get to know each other a bit more by chatting, first. Now, he may never respond again. I cant believe that after 15 months of recovery, I could feel like this. So, I am doing other things with my day, and feel better contacting him. We talked on line for about 2 hours, and he asked to meet me and I said No. Now I regret it. So, that's why I contacted him today, hoping he would ask me gain, so I can meet him. I liked his profile and what he looks like. And he is bringing up his boys, which to me says that he is a good responsible man. Oh well. I am not going to waste my day thinking about him. I sent an email, and he now knows that I am interested. Leave it at that. If he wants to he will contact me next. I am not chasing, again, this time. Interesting, as I write this, the only person I have really chased was my poa. I did not chase my ex h. He chased me. But I gave in to him. I thought I had to be with him. The one I chased was my only addictive relationship. The most painful of all. I feel empty as I even write about him. I chased someone who was completely unavailable. A little girl chasing after her father. How sad is that. gordana
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Post by livingwithoutguilt on Sept 7, 2010 16:11:03 GMT -8
I think thats what I need to do ,set some goals for myself,good idea. thanks for the post telmita
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Post by LovelyJune on Sept 7, 2010 16:40:27 GMT -8
Gordana-- Stay strong girl. Don't chase. When someone is interested in you they call you. They contact you. No matter what you say or do, even the quirky ways you act-- when someone likes you, nothing can change their mind. The flip side is that when someone is not serious or interested, they don;t call, they don't write back. Remember that. There are no hidden meanings. Everything is in their action. And G, if he doesn't call back, he wasn't worth it anyway. Trust in YOU. Trust in who you are and what you have to offer the world. No one else has what you've got Llivingwithout-- glad to help! T
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Post by gordana on Sept 9, 2010 20:48:58 GMT -8
Thank you Telmita I made NC. It feels soooooo good. What I have learned from being in recovery is that this disease is real. Now if i gave into the obsession, and contacting, I would soon become hooked and be in full blown addiction. I don't want that. I caught myself on time. All I wanted was more attention. That is the whole story of this addiction. He gave me an inch of his attention. It felt so good. I wanted more. I will not be begging for it. That would be degrading and my dignity would suffer again. I love and respect myself more than that. I am understanding this addiction more and more. And the triggers. I feel so good for not begging. Thank you T. You have been a good mentor for me.
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Post by LovelyJune on Sept 26, 2010 4:18:55 GMT -8
Glad to help Gordana!
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Post by gordana on Oct 1, 2010 20:00:39 GMT -8
So, this guy wanted my phone number and I gave it to him. He has called me a few times, just to say that we should go for that walk. And every time I say " you have my number now, just call me. And he calls me, not to ask for a date but to tell me that " we should go for that walk. I dont understand what he is doing, but I really am fine with this. And I am not going to ask him. If he wants to ask for a date, then I will accept. We talked about a few things. We both do not smoke or take drugs. Both drink once in a while, socially. he came out and asked me a few times if I like to cuddle and if I am affectionate. I told him yes, if I am in a committed relationship. I am not really ready to start dating again, I am scared a lot. Tired of breaking up if it is not working out. I will leave it in God's hands. There is no longing for him to call me. And when we do connect it is a bit of a boring conversation. So I am a bit ambivalent at this stage of my recovery.
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