magickwomun
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"If you always do what you've always done, you will always get what you've always gotten".
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Post by magickwomun on Dec 13, 2012 8:56:16 GMT -8
I haven't made direct contact with my poa since mid September. I haven't had contact by proxy or social network voyering since late September. Poa tried to call and text me Oct. 1st for several hours, his calls were ignored and his texts deleted without reading them. Poa tried to speak to me in court Oct. 24th. I pretended he wasn't even there. That's the last time i saw or heard from him, the judge ordered him NC with me that day. The last 2 weeks it's been tempting me to look at his social network profile. We had court the 11th, he didn't show up. my co-driver saw him at the terminal that day. Judge granted me a 5 year restraining order. Anyway, I saw his vehicle at he terminal twice in the last 2 weeks. It triggered me. The first time it brought tears. Co-driver just texted me today to tell me poa is in MS loading some freight that's got to be hauled out West. Curiosity has killed many cats. ignorance is bliss, right? I know looking at his profile is only going to hurt me somehow. I can't think of a single thing he could post that wouldn't hurt me, but somehow I'm curious to know, but I could very easily become upset if I look. It's a sad struggle but I must refrain to keep my self respect. I swear i can still "feel" him. I've been reading about mental and psychic attack and soul ties. He and I have a strange connection I've never experienced with anyone else. No court order can break that. Only my HP. I need my HP to break that connection, so we can stop thinking about each other. I'll be relieved when I get passed this, but something tells me it's going to be a while... 
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Post by requin on Dec 13, 2012 9:13:29 GMT -8
Yes, three months in is still in the throes of it. You are doing so amazingly well. If you look, yes, something will hurt. Something you see will probably put you in a tailspin. You might even be tempted to make contact...who knows. Or maybe not, but either way the old adage, what we don't know, can't hurt us, is very true for LAs during NC.
I know the feeling well, to want to break nc. I think your post was timely for me.
Hang in there, try not to give in to the temptation.
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Post by redhead on Dec 13, 2012 10:09:03 GMT -8
This post was timely for me as well, I too feel the need to contact him today. i too feel connected for some strange reason today. I know that doing so would throw me back into it, and I am not prepared to go through that again...
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Post by Loving My Life on Dec 13, 2012 11:58:30 GMT -8
magick,
Iam glad you did not act out on your curiosity, yes it killed the cat, and it will kill us too. (smiling).
Im glad your still checking in on the forum, you have alot too offer to the newcomers, you have alot of knowledge and experience to share with others.
We are all glad your here, keep coming back. :-)
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Post by maxheadcase on Dec 13, 2012 20:22:43 GMT -8
Things to think about before you are tempted to break NC:
1- First and fore most, you know in doing so you willingly get back on the wild roller coaster ride and return to the hell you are trying to move on from.
We all would at times love to reconnect with our POA's but this is the time when we must strongly recall all of the anger, disrespect, crossing of our boundary's, lies, manipulation, betrayal, pain, insanity, anxiety, sadness, despair and all of the other emotional and mental garbage that came from being connected with this person before. Think about how far you've come, even if its been a week of NC. Time heals all wounds, out of sight, eventually out of mind.
2- How will you feel if your poa doesn't answer the phone or rejects you over the phone? Will you be able to handle this or will it start the cycle of grief, sadness, anger, rejection, anxiety all over again?
When you have thoughts of breaking no contact or even when your thoughts return to your poa try to dismiss these thoughts or urges. I used/use thoughts like 'Nope she can no longer be in my life' or 'Stop wasting time thinking about her' They didn't always work early on but they worked like a charm after a while.
Early in my recovery I tried to dismiss those thoughts and urges this way and they didn't work because my heart and the addicted part of me wouldn't let it work Part of me just wasn't ready to do this. As time went on, when I'd find my thoughts wandering back to poa, the above dismissive thoughts actually worked. I guess it all depends on where the person is in recovery?
The advice given here is excellent, but advice to any addict is hard to follow even when we know it to be good, truthful advice. The key is not to forget the advice here. You may not be emotionally ready to follow some of the advice yet, but must give it and yourself a chance and down the road revisit what you have learned here and apply it during relapses or just when you are going through rough times with the addiction.
PS: I hope that made some sense and that I didn't come across as a pompous ass. I still have thoughts of poa but they are no longer painful nor do they affect my daily emotions anymore. It feels so good. It NEVER would have happened had I not stuck to NC. I just hope we all can break this addiction!!!!!
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Post by Loving My Life on Dec 14, 2012 5:20:01 GMT -8
Max, very good advise, and it has not been a catwalk, too get too the other side. But it is worth it now.
Please keep sharing your experience, strength, and hope so others can recover.
Thanks for being a part of this wonderful forum and recovery community.
Keep coming back and passing it on...
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Post by Jacarandagirl on Dec 14, 2012 15:21:27 GMT -8
Here's what I reckon. When we want to break NC we are already on a big adrenaline rush because we're contemplating using our drug of choice. And actually we are already using it. When we are in NC and doing well with it, we are at peace and feel a sense of relief.
This is something I've heard Byron Katie talk about, with my own LA interpretation added in. It's about that- how when we just think about breaking no contact we are actually already using our drug. We don't have to actually contact them, see them, talk to them, touch or sleep with them, text or email them. Just thinking about contacting them creates all the internal chemistry we need for a hit, however fleeting.
Science backs this up. We think about food and we salivate. We think about sex or romance and our body responds. So when we feel the temptation to break NC we're already doing it internally. The chemicals get released in our blood stream and we feel high. We make the mistake of thinking it's got something to do with our special bond with our PoA. It doesn't.
But that doesn't mean we should drop the bundle and go fully into really breaking it. Just know that it's time to reach out and get some help to stay healthy.
It makes sense- as love addicts we are into imagination, we can live in the realm of our fantasy with someone because reality was too hard as children, so we retreated somewhere safer. It became an uncontrollable habit. We either wake up to it and hopefully get into recovery or we don't.
The good side to the power of our imagination is that if we are still feel love for our PoA's but we know there is no going back, we can revisit them in our minds. There they are, we get to see them in our head, hear them and value the connection we had, and avoid fresh doses of the pain we inflicted on ourselves by hanging in there with people who weren't available.
And start to find out why we're not available either.
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Post by marymas on Dec 14, 2012 17:38:58 GMT -8
I'm reading "Mr. Unavailable and the Fallback Girl" by Natalie Lue of Bage Reclaim. She calls it "relationship crack" and, yes, just thinking of breaking NC is like taking a hit. That book is terrific. Also check out the article at her website, "Is it love or us it fear, drama...". I am paraphrasing and may not have the title 100% correct. So eloquent and true. I was in tears of realization and awareness as I read it. Sad but true. Awareness is huge and the truth is settingme free!
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Post by marymas on Dec 14, 2012 17:40:54 GMT -8
Correction: Baggage Reclaim
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Post by Jacarandagirl on Dec 14, 2012 18:42:45 GMT -8
Love that website. I just read "A Fine Romance" by Dr Judith Sills. Extremely good information about the psychology of dating and relationships. This book should be mandatory reading for all heterosexual women. And can probably apply pretty well to homosexual relationships too. Certainly the dating part could. I now really understand how it's important to listen carefully to what people say in the first three months of dating- it's spoken in code! And of course specialising in denial as a love addict makes this hard. I hear what I want to hear. And cracking the code is important, and there is no one right answer to it so you need to really pay attention over a period of time to get it right. Thanks everyone here who recommended it.
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magickwomun
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"If you always do what you've always done, you will always get what you've always gotten".
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Post by magickwomun on Dec 15, 2012 18:53:38 GMT -8
Thanks to everyone for your replies. I use the dismissive thoughts as well Max, they do seem to help.
My co-driver texted me again the next day to tell me he had a conversation with my poa. Poa asked him about me, he was told i'm doing well and that there is now a 5 year restraining order in effect. Poa began the smear campaign which my co-driver could see through. Turns out Poa had no idea we had a court date this month. poa is upset with me now, oh well.
My poa is a LA too and a narc. When I say we have a connection, it's not a "romantic" or "special" thing. In fact it's kind of scary, perhaps somewhat cosmic. He's noticed it too. Too many strange coincidences have been exchanged between us. On a spiritual level I do believe energy can be transferred or exchanged. I believe there is some truth to claims of soul ties and mental connection.
About 3 weeks ago our company safety director privately asked me if poa uses dope because a co-driver reported that he still does. I confirmed that he did when we were together. He swore to me he was off the stuff, but no, he's not. Hearing that upset me. He's also spreading rumors at work that i'm using dope and i'm a gold digger. Whatever. Sick of the madness.
I'm beginning to really enjoy being single. I get lonely sometimes, but the freedom is great. Im going to read that book eventually Mary, it's on my reading list. It's not always easy to keep NC, but my will power and logic are working well with that. I know he struggles with it too, but he's been ordered by 2 different courts to keep NC with me. Both judges suggested I refrain from contacting him, but I wasn't ordered, which infuriated him and caused him to show his behind in court to those judges. Genius move. He's still thinking about me too, I can feel it and the fact that he's asking around work about me confirms it. I wish people at work would quit bringing him up to me honestly. Hopefully he will screw up and fail a drug test and get fired. He's a liability anyway.
Maybe i shouldn't have that attitude, but after all he did to me it's hard not too.
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Post by miaowmiaowmiaow on Jan 6, 2015 5:39:52 GMT -8
I Have been doing no contact for a few months now and although i no longer feel the intense feelings I did before, i still find myself thinking "one call/email wouldn't hurt" "just a friendly hello...". I am worried that I will cave in and do it and all the feelings will come flooding back! I don't trust myself. Does anyone have any advice?
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Post by daisymae on Apr 2, 2015 10:07:00 GMT -8
miaowmiaowmiaow - I know it's been a while since you wrote the post on the temptation to contact your PoA. But I wanted to encourage you to NOT make contact. The reason I say this is... I went almost 4 months not contacting my PoA and then I broke it and sent a very short "friendly" email. Within a few weeks we saw each other and ended up in bed and the whole thing started over again. It lasted a few months and was WAY worse emotionally for me than the first time I was around him. MY point, it isn't worth it!! Trust me. Now I've gone almost 12 weeks NC and am finally starting to feel a bit better. It's just so humiliating to go back into these destructive relationships! It's not worth it. I hope you have focused on you and stayed away.
I just wanted to encourage you to hang in there and I hope you have.
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