Phoenix43
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Post by Phoenix43 on Apr 23, 2013 13:25:48 GMT -8
There's a question which is bothering me. How can I know if I'm really an LA or just a lonely person who's desperate for a relationship? I mean, most of the time I don't have a POA, just because I can't find one. Right now, I do have a POA (someone I met via online dating, and only met once). All LAs are lonely people, but not all lonely people are LAs, right?
Before I started recovery, when I wasn't in a relationship, I was always hanging out on online dating sites looking or a date, and on a date, if somebody showed interest in me, I would get heavy quite quickly (and so scare them off usually).
I suppose you don't have to constantly have a POA to be an LA. It's not having a POA that makes you an LA. It's being obsessed with being in a relationship as the main objective of your existence, and the sense of incompleteness on your own.
Comments welcome on the difference between being an LA and simply being lonely.
Thanks.
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Post by LovelyJune on Apr 23, 2013 14:36:39 GMT -8
All LAs are lonely people, but not all lonely people are LAs, right? Nope and yep. All LAs are not lonely people. Sometimes they are angry, frustrated obsessed, lonely…sometimes they are periods of great happiness. And all lonely people are not all LAs. If you're wondering if you are indeed a love addict, take the 40 questions! loveaddicts.org/40questions.html
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Post by Loving My Life on Apr 23, 2013 15:02:19 GMT -8
The hardest thing to do in recovery, is to stop and look within ourselves. And until we can do this, and be totally honest with ourselves, we will never recover.
What is going on inside of you, is it fear of being alone? not having a partner? look at your fears, and look at your inner child, and start to dig deep and work on you and see if anything comes up.
So what if you are alone? a lot of people are alone....but they still go out and do things, and try and make a new life with themselves as they recover.
When we are not healthy, we are not going to attract healthy people, we are just going to stay on this hamster wheel of insanity of this love addiction.
Hope this makes sense....we want answers and quick fixes, and we are the only ones who can do this, once we start working on ourselves.
Working the steps and especially the 4th step clean a lot of this up, and it is not a overnight process, it takes along time, and a lot of work, and we have to change ourselves and our thinking.
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Post by Loveanimals on Apr 23, 2013 19:29:37 GMT -8
I had a therapist who said I wasn't a love addict, just lonely.
That statement kept me stuck for years, it was like yay that's not me so I can continue to live in this hell. Hence my join date to recovery date 3.5 years.......
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Phoenix43
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Post by Phoenix43 on Apr 23, 2013 21:19:19 GMT -8
I scored 20 on the 40 questions, but I'm still a little bit confused.
Sometimes I feel lonely even when I'm at a party and talking to people. Only a deep intimate connection with somebody, of the kind you can only get from a relationship, can stop me feeling lonely. I need to know there's somebody there for me all the time, who really cares about me. Only a relationship can stop the loneliness, not just lots of socialising.
It's because the loneliness is not situational, it's deep inside. I guess loneliness and love addiction are to sides of the same coin for me.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Apr 24, 2013 11:00:56 GMT -8
Regarding loneliness . .. . We are not alone. We just feel alone because we either shut people out, we isolate, or people do not like us. All three of these things can be fixed. My first relationship was with God, from whom I could not hide, and who loved me despite all my shortcomings. Then I made that long journey from loneliness to solitude when I went from self-alienation to self love. I worked on my interpersonal skills by reading the book Emotional Intelligence.Today I am never alone because I am with God and with me. I am filled with joy which displaces loneliness. I have friends too. I let people in. I only get lonely in terms of people who have died like my daughter and my soul mate Sandra. It is wonderful not to be lonely or needy anymore.
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Post by kelleyboy on Apr 24, 2013 23:28:47 GMT -8
Bluh. I got all 40.
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Post by Loveanimals on Apr 25, 2013 7:00:52 GMT -8
That's an example of a mistaken belief "only a relationship can stop the loneliness". That pushes us into addiction and obsession because then if someone shows an interest, we smother them, become too needy too quickly and scare them off.
There are many, many people in relationships who are lonely. There are many people not in relationships who aren't lonely at all. It's a cultural belief that you need to be with someone in a relationship and it wasn't until I joined this board that I realized it was OK to be alone.
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Post by LovelyJune on Apr 25, 2013 7:45:44 GMT -8
Loneliness is a state of mind. You can fight it all you want and think it's because you're not connected to someone, but that's not the cause of loneliness.
I'm in a loving, giving, fulfilling relationship, I have two kids who also live with me. I even have a pet! But sometimes I feel lonely. It goes with the territory of being HUMAN. Gauge your level of loneliness. If it's chronic start to THINK DIFFERENTLY about loneliness versus being alone. That's the only way to change. Change the thinking.
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Post by thekeytomyheart on Apr 25, 2013 7:45:57 GMT -8
Regarding loneliness . .. . We are not alone. We just feel alone because we either shut people out, we isolate, or people do not like us. All three of these things can be fixed. My first relationship was with God, from whom I could not hide, and who loved me despite all my shortcomings. Then I made that long journey from loneliness to solitude when I went from self-alienation to self love. I worked on my interpersonal skills by reading the book Emotional Intelligence.Today I am never alone because I am with God and with me. I am filled with joy which displaces loneliness. I have friends too. I let people in. I only get lonely in terms of people who have died like my daughter and my soul mate Sandra. It is wonderful not to be lonely or needy anymore. How true! I really like all that you said in here, Ms Susan!
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Post by Phoenix43 on Apr 26, 2013 12:46:16 GMT -8
Thanks to all for the helpful thoughts. I'm at home alone right now, and I'm not feeling particularly lonely. Let's see how long it lasts!
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Post by LovelyJune on Apr 27, 2013 3:48:49 GMT -8
Thanks to all for the helpful thoughts. I'm at home alone right now, and I'm not feeling particularly lonely. Let's see how long it lasts! So…you're just going to sit and wait to see how long you feel lonely? Maybe this is the root of the problem. What action do you plan to take to overcome your loneliness? I mean, I think it's good to feel your feelings, but it's also good to work through transforming them into positives. You are in control. You're the one that makes choices. You're not powerless over this.
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Post by Loving My Life on Apr 27, 2013 4:41:55 GMT -8
R-E-C-O-V-E-R-Y is a ACTION WORD....you have to take some action in the process. If it is nothing more than cleaning out a sock drawer, do something beside just sit and let life pass you by.
I use to be that person, I would sit and complain about how bad life was, and do nothing. Looking back now I really don't know what I was expecting to happen.
I guess the fairy to sprinkle feel good dust upon my life and all would be better. LOL
Come on now, you can do something, right?
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Post by Phoenix43 on Apr 27, 2013 10:30:12 GMT -8
I didn't mean to imply that I would sit at home doing nothing. I was out seeing people most of the day today, and I'm going out dancing tomorrow night. I actually have an extremely busy life, with work, and my kids and social life. Often, exhaustion is a bigger issue than loneliness!
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Post by Loving My Life on Apr 27, 2013 12:11:50 GMT -8
I was hoping not..that is why I asked the questions.
And remember HALT: Hungry, Anger, Lonely, and Tired, these are signs we need to take some positive action. Maybe Eat, Talk, Be around healthy people, or Get some much needed rest.
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Post by LovelyJune on Apr 28, 2013 3:09:51 GMT -8
Here's a key component to the issue of loneliness that most people misunderstand: loneliness is not the absence of people. That would define aloneness. And the two are not synonymous. Being alone and being lonely are two separate things. So, when you try to cure your loneliness it doesn't mean to add people to your situation. That only resolves your aloneness. Sorry to bite your head off! But I just wasn't sure I understood your previous post.
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Post by Phoenix43 on Apr 28, 2013 5:47:01 GMT -8
I know! I have an active social life, but I carry my loneliness around with me. In order to fix the loneliness, I feel there is an need to really merge and fuse with another person, to become a single unit - a couple. Loneliness is maybe the wrong word for what I feel. It's really incompleteness. I feel that the normal unit for human existence is a couple, and I'm only half of that. That's it really: I feel incomplete, not lonely.
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Post by benoticed on Jun 5, 2013 12:32:03 GMT -8
Yes unfortunately I am. Im not afraid to admit it though, because it never shows from my personality
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Post by Susan Peabody on Jun 6, 2013 14:51:32 GMT -8
Yes unfortunately I am. Im not afraid to admit it though, because it never shows from my personality My story regarding loneliness . . . I was lonely until 1983 when I began to have a relationship with God. I don't know much about this invisible friend, but I am in love and I don't feel alone anymore. I was also working on building self-esteem at the time so my newfound relationship with myself may be displacing the loneliness that haunted me.
I really don't have an explanation, I just know solitude does not freak me out anymore. My problem was (I am not speaking about others), that I was looking for love "in all the wrong places; in all the wrong faces." The only relationship I wanted or sought out was a romantic one. In recovery, I learned how other forms of love could be just as fulfilling. I was shocked, but grateful.
If our life is small, it is usually us who made it that way. Look within for a solution.
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