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Post by CodepNomore on Oct 19, 2014 19:47:54 GMT -8
There are cases that our issues actually stem from an excessive need or demand for (an unreasonable amount of) attention. We might think that when the people around us, (or God) fail to give us such amount of attention, we feel that they have abandoned us, they don't care, and/or that we are not good enough.
On the other hand, sometimes our hysterical reactions can come from history of abandonment, wounded inner child, or we may have Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Speaking of which, here is the information pertaining to it:
Definition
By Mayo Clinic Staff
Adult attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) is a mental health condition exhibited by difficulty maintaining attention, as well as hyperactivity and impulsive behavior. Adult ADHD symptoms can lead to a number of problems, including unstable relationships, poor work or school performance, and low self-esteem.
ADHD always starts in early childhood, but in some cases it's not diagnosed until later in life. It was once thought that ADHD was limited to childhood. But symptoms frequently persist into adulthood. For some people, adult ADHD causes significant problems that improve with treatment.
Treatment for adult ADHD is similar to treatment for childhood ADHD, and includes stimulant drugs or other medications, psychological counseling (psychotherapy), and treatment for any mental health conditions that occur along with adult ADHD.
Symptoms
Attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) has been called attention-deficit disorder (ADD) and hyperactivity. But ADHD is the preferred term because it includes the two main aspects of the condition: inattention and hyperactive-impulsive behavior.
Adult ADHD symptoms may include:
Trouble focusing or concentrating
Restlessness
Impulsivity
Difficulty completing tasks
Disorganization
Low frustration tolerance
Frequent mood swings
Hot temper
Trouble coping with stress
Unstable relationships
Many adults with ADHD aren't aware they have it — they just know that everyday tasks can be a challenge. Adults with ADHD may find it difficult to focus and prioritize, leading to missed deadlines and forgotten meetings or social plans. The inability to control impulses can range from impatience waiting in line or driving in traffic to mood swings and outbursts of anger.
All adults with ADHD had ADHD as children, even if it was never diagnosed. Some people with ADHD have fewer symptoms as they age, while others continue to have significant symptoms as adults.
What's normal and what's ADHD?
Almost everyone has some symptoms similar to ADHD at some point in their lives. If your difficulties are recent or occurred only occasionally in the past, you probably don't have ADHD. ADHD is diagnosed only when symptoms are severe enough to cause ongoing problems in more than one area of your life. These persistent and disruptive symptoms can be traced back to early childhood.
Diagnosis of ADHD in adults can be difficult because certain ADHD symptoms are similar to those caused by other conditions, such as anxiety or mood disorders. And many adults with ADHD also have at least one other mental health condition, such as depression or anxiety.
When to see a doctor
If inattention, hyperactivity or impulsive behavior continually disrupts your life, talk to your doctor about whether you might have ADHD. Because signs of ADHD are similar to those of a number of other mental health conditions, you may not have ADHD — but you may have another condition that needs treatment.
I am speaking this in love...I hope that whatever is your case you will find it and its necessary treatment. You deserve to pay attention to your own personal needs. Have faith and take courage to heal and recover. You are not alone, we are here to support you.
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Post by CodepNomore on Oct 27, 2014 6:30:51 GMT -8
This is an interesting topic so I thought I would share this here. (Note: This is going to be long so I will divide it into parts.)
Rescuer Syndrome
Definition:
Rescuer Syndrome - Rescuer Syndrome is when a non-personality-disordered individual assumes that their own strength, skill and knowledge are adequate to compensate for a personality-disordered individual's behavioral issues.
Description:
Many Chosen Non-PD’s are fixers, rescuers and well-meaning individuals who try to use their own ability to bring about change in others through the power of influence, persuasion, coercion or charm.
Examples of Fixers & Rescuers
A fiance whose future spouse explodes in a fit of rage, but who chooses to go ahead with the wedding thinking "I can change him/er after the wedding"
A husband in an abusive relationship who decides to "love her through the pain"
An abused wife who decides not to seek out professional help, preferring to "try harder to work on herself".
A partner in a relationship who tries to keep the peace through making everything "perfect" for their partner at home.
A parent with a personality-disordered child who seeks solutions by being a better parent.
A child of a personality-disordered parent who tries to win their favor through academic performance.
The Attractive Role of a Fixer or Rescuer
Fixers & rescuers often engage themselves in supremely noble activities. Like martyrs, they often sacrifice their own goals and hopes for the sake of the other person. There are a number of possible reasons why many of us, as Non-PD's cast ourselves in that role.
Nobility - This kind of self sacrifice is sometimes encouraged by popular cultural and religious beliefs. There is a strong cultural narrative that teaches us that it is more noble to give than to receive and that those who adopt this philosophy will prevail in the end. Many of our cultural heroes are people who martyred themselves or sacrificed themselves for a cause. Some of us, while we are suffering in silence, privately hope that we are winning the admiration of friends and family for doing so.
Action - Sometimes, when the world around us seems to be imploding in a world of crazy destruction, it can seem foolish to do nothing. At least if we are hacking our way through a jungle we have something to do and a task to focus our energy on. It can be therapeutic to take our frustration and confusion out on a project and sometimes the extra adrenaline we get from frequent conflict with our personality-disordered family members can be channeled to give us a kind of "super-human strength" to accomplish amazing things.
Latent Justice - Some of us, religiously or otherwise, view the universe as a place where all will be made equal in the end. Like some kind of emotional bank account, we pay in our efforts and sacrifices hoping and believing that some day, in this world or in the next, we will reap all that we have sewn, with interest.
Guilt & Pride - Some of us, while we are working hard on ourselves or on "the relationship", harbor a hidden vengeance and secretly plan for the day when our loved-one will "See the light", "come to their senses" or "pay back what is owed". We may secretly imagine our loved one coming to us, acknowledging all that we have done for them, and asking or pleading for our forgiveness.
So What's Wrong with Being a Fixer?
The problem with adopting a "fix-it" or "rescuer" attitude towards dealing with personality disorders is that personality disorders are real mental illnesses, with their roots buried deep in the neurology of the people who suffer from them. Just as you can't cure someone else's infection by taking an antibiotic for them, you can't cure someone else's personality disorder by changing your own behavior, or compensating for them. You can't rescue them, no matter how much you, or they, might wish you could.
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Post by CodepNomore on Oct 27, 2014 6:36:08 GMT -8
Help me! That's the mating call for the Rescuer or Super Hero identity. It arouses all of the stress hormones combined with a strong need to connect in the only way he's ever known to connect. We all know this identity. It's the grandmother to whom you can take your dirty laundry and she'll say it wasn't your fault and fold you up under her wing to rest while she takes over. It's the person in the neighborhood who takes in all the stray animals and people and has a regular farm on his less than half acre property or 3 people coming over for supper every day in his tiny apartment. It's the fierce warrior who goes to battle to save the "whatever needs saving lately." It's the man or woman who never even hums the song "What have you done for me lately?"
Unlike the Scapegoat, guilt is not the chief motivator here, however. Rather, the Rescuer needs to be needed. The Rescuer not only depends on her role to give her a sense of self, but she also depends on it to bridge the gap between self and others. In other words she needs the Rescuer role just as much, probably more, than the rescued needs rescuing. In fact, the Rescuer tends to feel as if her self-esteem has taken a big hit when there is a lag-time between rescues. Though on the one hand she might be relieved that she's not having to take care of every little thing for the rescued during that lag-time; on the other hand, she's wondering what she's doing here if it isn't to rescue someone else. There's a deep unsettling underground tremor that tells her that something is really wrong with this picture. So, without really paying much attention to it, she launches herself into another search for the next victim in need of rescue.
The best way to avoid these down turns in mood and this loss of mission is to marry or commit to someone who needs rescuing. That way the Rescuer always feels needed, even essential to his partner. There is always something that is needed, something that needs doing, some sympathy to feel, some hurdle to jump, some mission to accomplish--and it's all done with the greatest of noble thoughts--for, indeed, it does appear to the Rescuer to be a noble cause. He just can't imagine that what he is doing is not absolutely essential to the well-being, if not the survival of his partner.
Of course, it is easy to see how the Rescuer can become the primary enabler for an addict or alcoholic, but she can also become the primary enablers for the Big Baby, the Victim or the Runaway. Enabling is what the Rescuer does. The definition of enabling here is the unconscious encouragement of another's dis-ability. Not another's disability, but another's dis-ability. In other words, whatever it is that the other person is refusing to do for him or herself, that's exactly what the Rescuer will do. This encourages the other person to continue to refuse to do it for him or herself.
Typically, the first question the Rescuer will ask when this information is given to him is:
"Well, how do you know they are refusing to do it; how do you know that they simply can't do it?" The answer? Stop doing it for her and watch what happens. Typically, he already knows what happens because he's seen it several times by now: "She pitches a holy fit!" Or, "She gets really pitiful." Or, she ups the ante by getting sicker or more needy in someway--even sometimes going as far as to threaten or even attempt suicide. It is interesting that the poor Victim, now turned Bully, can put all of this enormous energy into pitching a fit, getting pitiful or upping the ante, but can't find one ounce of energy to save herself.
The Rescuer became the Rescuer early in life when powerlessness was still a big issue. But this child is assigned the role that carries with it the awesome and heady power of rescuing mother or father, sister or brother, or the whole family. There's a giant "I can't" hanging around in the air in this family. The child believes that "I can't" and assumes the "I can" as if it were the Superhero's cape and costume. Over time and the building of rescuing skills, this becomes the only method by which the child can feel connected to otherwise self-absorbed or self-involved parents, whose needs seem to outweigh those of the child. The child learns to meet her own needs vicariously through meeting those of other people. She learns that the only legitimate way to connect to others is to rescue them. Ergo, when she goes looking for friends and lovers, later in life, she'll only seek out those who need rescuing--for this sense that they need her is the only thing she has ever known of giving and receiving love. And those who assume an identity of needing rescue, for whatever reason, are attracted to her like a bee to pollen.
But when the Rescuer finally arrives in a therapist's office, it's usually because the voice of the Authentic Self has begun to be heard. And it is heard through the powerful urges, repressed by now for many years, of his own needs--his needs for love, support, affection, and a strong sense of self that is not dependent on fixing the lives of other people. He's built up years of resentment and absolute frustration that he can't seem to fix the person he's trying desperately to fix. And usually his first question in therapy is "What's wrong with me?" because he feels that his resentment and anger are telling him he's really a bad person, since his sense of self has been built on rescuing others. Generally, he is experiencing a concomitant and equally strong, seductive urge to keep on doing what he's always done. This internal conflict is creating stress and/or some physical maladies, by the time he finally arrives at therapy's door.
So, what's to be done? How will the Rescuer finally begin to rescue herself?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 6:58:39 GMT -8
Wow, how incredibly timely for me, thank you for posting this Codepnomore. (I am a big Melody Beattie fan too.)
I have been going over my relationship with the POA, and prior relationships as well, needing to harvest from this awful experience something I can use. I have been asking what is the lesson here?
I have been in and out of various stages of grief over this: denial (of course), anger, bargaining (should have seen this earlier), acceptance at times, even flashes of forgiveness and pity. (Now that I understand that my POA suffers from full-blown Narcissistic Personality Disorder [NPD] I have had waves of sadness for her; trapped inside a false self she made out of desperation as a severely abused child, addicted to her drug of others' attention, existing only in the reflection she gets from other people -- a living nightmare.)
But: even this compassion can be a cover, and your post says it well. I need to spend less time figuring out the POA's pathology and more on MY OWN. After all, I know now the POA was a very sick woman. But what does it say about me that I was drawn to her? That I put up with her? Why the need to pierce through the darkness I so clearly perceived and rescue her, save her? (As a codep I am highly attuned to other people, almost at times uncanny in my ability to sense pain in others.)
I read descriptions of narcissistic abuse and identify in an intellectual way. I was built up, then devalued, then discarded. But I am still minimizing the pain this caused me, and an obsessive focus on figuring out the POA's NPD condition is just a diversion. In the back of my mind, though every single source says there is no way to help people who suffer from NPD, I know I am thinking well at least some day I may be able to help her in some way, if only to soften the pain the next time she blows up her world through her obsessive quest for attention and validation.
The serenity prayer says it all: "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference."
I have to accept that this woman I know (to the extent you can know someone with NPD) was severely abused and that I can't change that; she has a condition that will cause her to endlessly repeat the cycle of buildup-devaluation-discarding that she did with me; that she will experience excruciating pain deep inside over this pattern, medicated by more and more intensive repeats of the cycle; and that I cannot change her childhood, convince her of the proper diagnosis, nor help her in any way. I have to let all that go, and commend my POA and her future life to God.
But then I need the courage to attack my own codependency with as much energy and passion as I want to put into saving the POA and others. It starts for me with two Al-Anon meetings this week, which I very desperately need.
An obsessive focus on other people's problems is part of my drug. It keeps me from focusing on my own problems. Which are considerable!
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Post by CodepNomore on Oct 27, 2014 7:44:52 GMT -8
@lrn2valume, thanks for sharing with your great insight.
"Tips For Transitioning From a Rescuer to a Supporter"
1. If you have a 'need to be needed', do whatever it takes to get the wounds healed that led to that need.
2. Take an honest inventory of what you get out of rescuing. We don't do anything that we don't get something out of. When you are tempted to rescue, ask yourself what your intentions in doing so are. Then ask yourself if those intentions are worthy of you.
3. Set clear boundaries and standards. Boundaries are the limits you put on other's behavior when they are around you. Standards are the limits you put on your own behavior. A boundary might be something like: I do not allow people to continue to complain to me when it's obvious that they are not willing to do anything to solve their problem. A standard might be: I do not work harder on someone else's life than they are willing to work on their own.
4. When someone comes to you with a problem, take a deep breath and count to five. Then ask the two most important questions, "What do you need?" and "How can I support you?" This will give you time to respond mindfully rather than react emotionally.
5. Respect the others right to make their own choices. Along with that right comes the right to experience the consequences, the right to learn from experience. You may not agree with their choices and think that you know what's best for them, but in reality there's only one who truly knows what's best for any of us and that one is God or whatever you call your Higher Power.
6. Know that the same God that dwells within you dwells within the other. As such, inner guidance is available to that person just like it is to you.
7. Ask yourself, "What would love do here?" And, sometimes love means saying "no".
8. "Under" promise, or better yet, don't promise at all. When we are caught off guard, in a moment of emotionality, we may promise things that we later regret having promised. How much better to promise nothing and deliver a lot. An example might be promising nothing in the moment and then, keeping that person and their situation in mind, send encouraging notes, call on a regular basis to lend support, cook up food they love and deliver it, send a live plant, treat them to dinner and a movie out; there are so many ways to let a person know that we care.
9. Offer to brainstorm solutions with them. The tricky part here is to stay away from focusing on the problem.
10. Don't give advice unless it's asked for. I still slip on this one. If it sounds like the person is asking for advice, ask them, "Are you asking for my opinion?" If the answer is "yes", try to give them two or three possible options that you can think of. Sharing several possible solutions can help them open up to possibilities they may not have considered and help you stay open to outcome. When we give only one opinion, we can get attached to that opinion like it's the only way to go.
The Pros and Cons of Transitioning to Being a Supporter
If you have been a rescuer up until now and you've decided to change your ways and become a supporter instead, you need to know that the people who you have been rescuing will not like that change. And, it's even possible that they won't like you anymore. You need to ask yourself if you can handle that if it happens. In order to change from a rescuer to a supporter, you'll Have to be willing to take the risk of losing friends.
On the other side of the coin, however, if you do make this change, you will attract more healthy, self-sufficient, happy people into your life. You will make new, more energy enhancing friendships.
And, you will have much more energy yourself when you are no longer participating in rescuing behavior. You will be able to fill your own cup and give from the overflow.
Sources:
Sharon Demarte
Out of the fog
Psychology Today
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 8:25:25 GMT -8
Very helpful, thanks, I will be keeping this list close to me from now on
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Post by CodepNomore on Dec 24, 2014 17:46:44 GMT -8
@lrn2valume, you are being helpful and supportive around here and we surely appreciate that. However, it seems you are still needing healing from your POA and resolve your codependency issue? Because I am sensing strongly that you are still carrying her weight on your back when you speak of personality disorder and/or sort of diagnosing others' condition?
You don't have to answer me, but perhaps, you can reflect on them and see what steps you can take to help yourself feel lighter and enjoy more freedom.
I am only wishing you well.
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