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Post by safiya on Aug 4, 2015 3:01:27 GMT -8
Wondering if anyone else is feeling a similar conflict of interests?
I go to AA and am very grateful to AA as it has (so far) kept me off alcohol, a day at a time.
However - am coming out of meetings sometimes feeling very frustrated, and at times more than that, angry even.
I feel that the 12 steps of AA are good for the alcoholic mind set that I have, but they can also be quite damaging in parts for my love addict/adult child self to deal with.
When you've grown up in a dysfunctional environment low self esteem is often the result .. as Susan said in another thread, with regards to step four for love addicts: '' Love addicts, on the other hand, need more ego and self-esteem. '' - precisely.
I sometimes feel that AA, and some of the things said there, can actually be damaging for some alcoholics who are also cross addicted (love addiction/co-dependency etc) and who are probably also adult children who have grown up being shamed and not having their emotions validated.
I stress that I am not being ungrateful to AA, and that I acknowledge that this is my issue to grapple with, not theirs, but I'd really like to hear if anyone else has felt/feels/experienced similar as it is affecting me and I'm holding back from people in AA for fear of being really torn to pieces.
Any helpful thoughts or feedback on this would be really welcomed. Thankyou x
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Post by Susan Peabody on Aug 5, 2015 10:59:55 GMT -8
I feel that the 12 steps of AA are good for the alcoholic mind set that I have, but they can also be quite damaging in parts for my love addict/adult child self to deal with.
I was introduced to the twelve steps in OA for anorexia. I switched to AA. I also went to Alanon and ACA. Then Co-DA and Women Who Love Too Much. The twelve steps need to be modified for codependents and understood in a different light. There are many books about how to do this. Step One is controversial, but I think admitting we have a problem, and giving it a label, is a nice beginning. To me it is about humility. It is too easy for love addicts to blame their partner. Step Two is a personal decision. Finding out God loved me changed my life. It lifted my self-esteem and diminished my shame and depression. It worked for me as it is. In the later stages love addicts can become temporarily "insane." Step Three changed my life. Before that I was lost, blind, confused, miserable, frightened and insane. God has taken really good care of me. Today I am happy and a writer which was a childhood dream. Step Four has to be modified or turned up side down. The emphasis should not be our shortcomings unless you believe shame is an hostile act toward yourself and unnecessary. It is best to use this step to list all the wonderful things about yourself. Still love addicts do have character defects if you got into the obsessive stage and stalked someone. Step 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 all work for me This is just my opinion. Taking the steps in Co-DA might work better for you.
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Post by safiya on Aug 5, 2015 23:36:11 GMT -8
Susan ... thankyou. This has really helped. I will purchase the book that you suggested ... was at an AA meeting last night and thinking some more about this ... AA is definitely the right place for me so I stay away from alcohol a day at a time ... yet I definitely need to work the 12 steps in relation to my other issues, including love addiction/co-dependency, so thankyou so much for sharing your experience, strength and hope on this .. greatly appreciated, can be hard finding a way through it all, especially in early recovery.
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