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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 14, 2017 11:19:41 GMT -8
im feeling bad about my presumably straight woman crush. No one seems to understand me. Nothing working any more. She may know about my feelings and has been avoiding me. Back in July someone sent her my journal entries. I admitted to being attracted to her. She's an older woman (60) so she may not be open to it.
I find myself wanting to have a relationship with her. I'm depressed over this unrequited love. I'm embarrassed over her and afraid I will cry if she asks me about it. I don't want to bring it up with her. I don't want out myself if I'm wrong about het finding out. However I just have intuition that she knows.
Should tell her? Sometimes I fell this would help. Maybe just getting all out in the open and being open. However I will be afraid she will react negatively.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 14, 2017 14:29:43 GMT -8
Are you straight and in love with another straight woman or are you gay and in love with a straight woman? When it comes to love their are all kinds of combinations. I am a straight woman who loved another straight woman with all my heart. We both pretended to be gay so we could be together. She was my soul mate and I was happier than I had ever been in my life. I was 56 years old and it was the first time that someone I loved loved me back. When she died I was devastated and to this day I still love her.
If you are gay and love a straight woman you must be sure she is interested before you pursue her. Discuss it with her so you don't keep wondering. If she is your friend she will understand that you are complimenting her.
It is not that we don't understand you or that we judge you it is just that when someone does not love you back you are prolonging your misery instead of finding someone who could you the way you love her.
You can send me a PM if you want. Just don't be embarrassed about this and don't feel misunderstood by anyone on this board. All my family shunned Sandra and me but our real friends understood that we were simply in love because we got along so well.
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 14, 2017 15:39:36 GMT -8
Are you straight and in love with another straight woman or are you gay and in love with a straight woman? When it comes to love their are all kinds of combinations. I am a straight woman who loved another straight woman with all my heart. We both pretended to be gay so we could be together. She was my soul mate and I was happier than I had ever been in my life. I was 56 years old and it was the first time that someone I loved loved me back. When she died I was devastated and to this day I still love her. If you are gay and love a straight woman you must be sure she is interested before you pursue her. Discuss it with her so you don't keep wondering. If she is your friend she will understand that you are complimenting her. It is not that we don't understand you or that we judge you it is just that when someone does not love you back you are prolonging your misery instead of finding someone who could you the way you love her. You can send me a PM if you want. Just don't be embarrassed about this and don't feel misunderstood by anyone on this board. All my family shunned Sandra and me but our real friends understood that we were simply in love because we got along so well. I plan on taking her. Up of coffee and just being open and honest with her.
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 14, 2017 17:44:55 GMT -8
Are you straight and in love with another straight woman or are you gay and in love with a straight woman? When it comes to love their are all kinds of combinations. I am a straight woman who loved another straight woman with all my heart. We both pretended to be gay so we could be together. She was my soul mate and I was happier than I had ever been in my life. I was 56 years old and it was the first time that someone I loved loved me back. When she died I was devastated and to this day I still love her. If you are gay and love a straight woman you must be sure she is interested before you pursue her. Discuss it with her so you don't keep wondering. If she is your friend she will understand that you are complimenting her. It is not that we don't understand you or that we judge you it is just that when someone does not love you back you are prolonging your misery instead of finding someone who could you the way you love her. You can send me a PM if you want. Just don't be embarrassed about this and don't feel misunderstood by anyone on this board. All my family shunned Sandra and me but our real friends understood that we were simply in love because we got along so well. I plan on taking her. Up of coffee and just being open and honest with her. I am questioning my sexaulity I'm have very strong feelings for are straight woman. I suspect that she knows. I want to be held kissed and some other things by her. She's not my friend but I would like to be. Usually I through myself into a project so I can temporarily forget but it keeps coming back. I have to meet other people but I don't have much look. I'm a bit socially awkward so end creeping people out.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 14, 2017 19:34:54 GMT -8
I think this is great. Keep us posted. I hope things work out. If not believe that love is waiting for you now that you are in recovery.
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Post by matrix on Oct 15, 2017 6:49:27 GMT -8
" Back in July someone sent her my journal entries." .....say what? That is not okay, can you elaborate on this? My alarm bells are going off because that seems like an invasion of privacy.
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 15, 2017 10:25:51 GMT -8
" Back in July someone sent her my journal entries." .....say what? That is not okay, can you elaborate on this? My alarm bells are going off because that seems like an invasion of privacy. Quote: Despite me having double Authentication my iCloud got hacked. In the entry I admitted to being attracted to her. My journal entries got sent to everyone in my contacts which includes her and her coworkers. Another way she could have found out was someone told. I disclosed in a church support group that I had crush on a woman. I didn't give anything specific just admitted I liked her. The support group was helping me and I enjoyed. Another is that she knew I liked her before I did. Every once in awhile I will meet someone that knows I like women no matter how well I hide it. Having a crush on this woman is not something I'm proud of. Liking women is not something i share with just anyone and that includes my crush. I'm very closeted.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 15, 2017 13:36:49 GMT -8
Never be ashamed of love. We may love too much but that is better than not loving at all. 
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 15, 2017 15:17:11 GMT -8
Never be ashamed of love. We may love too much but that is better than not loving at all.  Part of it is I'm crushing on a woman whom is 27yrs older than me....old enough to be my mom
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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 15, 2017 18:53:30 GMT -8
Age is not the issue here. Gender does not matter. Shame has to go. The only thing that matters is whether or not she is available. If not move on. Love is love when it comes to attraction. Every person is different.
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 16, 2017 9:30:57 GMT -8
Age is not the issue here. Gender does not matter. Shame has to go. The only thing that matters is whether or not she is available. If not move on. Love is love when it comes to attraction. Every person is different. I'm going to be careful. I want to make sure it's not all in my head. Yes she's single, but according to social media she identifies as straight. However I don't like to judge based of what I have found online. There have been times when I met people who said they were straight online but in reality the were bi/gay. Maybe I will just write her letter that way I'm not there to see her reaction. However if I did talk to her person I would get one on one feedback. Here's possible reactions 1. She's flattered but tells me she's not interested 2. Rare but possible she feels the same about me or is bi/gay herself 3. She's offended beyond belief and tells anyone who will listen.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 16, 2017 12:52:07 GMT -8
Her reaction is in God's hands. Just communicate her feelings and leave it at that. Nothing ventured nothing gained. If she is not interested move on.
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 16, 2017 14:47:44 GMT -8
Therapy isn't working. I feel like I'm going nowhere. I want to talk about the person I'm attracted to with my therapist and she redirects the conversation to my mom. I'm at point where nothing seems to hel. I'm struggling with my sexuality triggers my depression.
I long to be connected and intimate with this woman I met a year ago. I'm trying understand my feelings towards this woman and figure out where they came from. These feelings are coming somewhere. My therapist kept making comments like "just stop thinking about this woman." If it where that easy I would have done that a long time ago.
At first everything I was doing the therapist seemed to be helping me. However i revealed that I'm working a novel about a relationship between an older woman and young woman. My therapist stated that was deviant.
Writing is an outlet for me it's my way of acting on something I know I could never act on. I don't have a safe place to talk. This is one of the few places I can openly gush about another woman without being judged:
I live in a very conservative town that does not take well to those that are different this includes therapist.
The other day I saw her at my job. I could tell by her reaction that she was not affirming at all.
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 16, 2017 16:23:05 GMT -8
I just crave her company, want her to like me, want to know everythig about her and wish to be a part of her life.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 16, 2017 16:42:25 GMT -8
I just crave her company, want her to like me, want to know everythig about her and wish to be a part of her life. My heart goes out to you. Try having this kind of relationship with your inner child and with your Higher Power until you find someone to love. We all want this from another human being but timing is everything.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 16, 2017 16:45:48 GMT -8
Your therapist is verbally abusing you and she should be reported. When I loved Sandra I was shunned by my church and told I could not see my grandchildren. It hurt but I stood my ground. The world is harsh and you have to stay away from people who do not understand. Leave this therapist and talk to us.
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 16, 2017 20:56:47 GMT -8
My family doesn't like it either my mom thinks the lady I met (Debbie)made me this way. But the truth is I was that way long before I met her.
Back in march my mom forced me to come out to her. She thinks what she did is great but to me it hurt. Fortunately I was able to avoid being to tell Debbie how I feel about her. If any one going to tell her it going to be me.
The hard part is Debbie will want to know why I feel the way I do and to be honest I don't know. Being the inquisitive woman she is she demand I tell her. She'd mean well but she would want to know. So the question is how do I tell someone I why I fell for them when I don't know.
God put her in my life for a reason. He wanted to show me something. A Devine appointment. She is the third. Each person whom god put in my life changed me for ever. At first the circumstance with Debbie were not that great but she gave me the push that I needed. When it comes to the circumstances I have no one to blame but myself. I could have left but I chose to stay and go through with it. But in the end it all turned out well and I ended up being happy with my choice
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Post by matrix on Oct 17, 2017 6:28:48 GMT -8
I agree with Susan about your therapist, it sounds like she is causing more damage than helping. Umm, writing is deviant, what!!?? It seems like your writing is helping you heal, please keep writing! Creativity gives us some freedom from addiction. Before you talk to this woman, it may be helpful to write out your motives and intentions for doing so. So when you do talk to her you are clear on why you are and what you hope to get out of it. Or write it out on here are we will help you
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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 17, 2017 7:58:54 GMT -8
God has a reason for everything. You are right about this. Some people are here to teach us through disappointment. Others are here to make us happy. Everything should bring us closer to God or it is a wasted lesson. Hand in there.
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 17, 2017 9:29:23 GMT -8
I just need to get this off my chest. I don't know what scares me more. Her reacting negatively or being okay with it and wanting be with me.
The age difference creeps me out. Yes age is not the issue..it's love.
Why did put her in my life. Does he want me to like women.
I know this isn't right but I blame my mom for who I am. I feel if she has not abused me. I would be a different person. If my mom had not verbally abused me the thought of being with a woman would have never crossed my mind
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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 17, 2017 10:37:46 GMT -8
God puts people in our life to teach us. Sometimes this is wonderful and sometimes it hurts. This may be an opportunity to explore your sexuality or it may not, but it is very important that you learn as much as you can about yourself. There is an old song. To know, know, know you is to love, love, love you. This is God's song to you . . . Why can't you see? Oh, how blind can you be? To know, know, know you Is to love, love, love you Just to see you smile Makes my life worthwhile To know, know, know you Is to love, love, love you And I do, yes I do, yes I do I'll be good to you And I'll bring love to you Oh, everyone says there'll come a day When I'll walk along side of you And to know, know, know you Is to love, love, love you And I do, yes I do, yes I do Why can't you see? Oh, how blind can you be? Someday you'll see That you were meant for me To know, know, know you Is to love, love, love you Just to see you smile Makes my life worthwhile To know, know, know you Is to love, love, love you And I do, yes I do, yes I do And I do, yes I do, yes I do Yes I do
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 17, 2017 11:13:39 GMT -8
Here is what may have gotten sent to debbie. It was in my iCloud. Also I will let you know im feeling better now. And this not be the way to do it.
'm attracted to you. This is embarrassing as it gets it makes want go get high to get over you. Well anyways you're not the first
I don't why you look down others. I deserve to be treated now with respect. I do the best I can I don't like explaining myself to others so don't expect me to others en up to you.
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Post by LovelyJune on Oct 17, 2017 14:21:28 GMT -8
Hi Shasta,
Welome to the boards. I agree with Susan. This therapist does not seem like a good choice for you. Try finding one that is sensitive to women's issues and sexuality. You sound like you very smart lady and already know how to help yourself. Oftentimes we have all the answers, we simply lack the courage to put what we believe into motion. What you're feeling is perfectly normal. The unhealthy part only seems to be that you are paralyzed with fear to reach out to her and tell her the truth. This is part of the torchbearer's plight. We pine for people and keep them in fantasy mode because we do not want rejection, and we kinda also don't want acceptance. The underlying fear seems to be intimacy. Does that sound a bit right? Normally, when we are afraid of intimacy, we tend to choose completely unavailable people--married people, people who live great distances from us, even straight people when we are identifying as gay or bi. It doesn't matter whether it's a man or woman. As long as they are unavailable.
How well do you know this woman? I get the sense that you do not know her well. If that's true, ask yourself if you could possible, bit by bit, get to know her better, only as friends. You may find that might be enough. Only you have the answers. But one this is true: the longer you pine for her and do nothing about it, the more you keep finding road blocks to expressing your true feelings to her, that is a big sign that you are avoiding yourself. You are avoiding loving yourself so that you are capable of loving others.
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 17, 2017 14:30:57 GMT -8
Hi Shasta, Welome to the boards. I agree with Susan. This therapist does not seem like a good choice for you. Try finding one that is sensitive to women's issues and sexuality. You sound like you very smart lady and already know how to help yourself. Oftentimes we have all the answers, we simply lack the courage to put what we believe into motion. What you're feeling is perfectly normal. The unhealthy part only seems to be that you are paralyzed with fear to reach out to her and tell her the truth. This is part of the torchbearer's plight. We pine for people and keep them in fantasy mode because we do not want rejection, and we kinda also don't want acceptance. The underlying fear seems to be intimacy. Does that sound a bit right? Normally, when we are afraid of intimacy, we tend to choose completely unavailable people--married people, people who live great distances from us, even straight people when we are identifying as gay or bi. It doesn't matter whether it's a man or woman. As long as they are unavailable. How well do you know this woman? I get the sense that you do not know her well. If that's true, ask yourself if you could possible, bit by bit, get to know her better, only as friends. You may find that might be enough. Only you have the answers. But one this is true: the longer you pine for her and do nothing about it, the more you keep finding road blocks to expressing your true feelings to her, that is a big sign that you are avoiding yourself. You are avoiding loving yourself so that you are capable of loving others. I don't know this woman personally. But I would love to get know her and be her friend. This woman makes me feel vulnerable. She's right through me and reads me like an open book. She she seems to be someone that would accept me
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Post by LovelyJune on Oct 17, 2017 14:44:24 GMT -8
I am going to suggest that you stop with the fantasy about her. Stop making assumptions about how great she might be. Focus on reality. How can you realistically get to know her so that you can make realistic decisions about her. Try to stay present and don't allow yourself to slip into "wondering" or "feeling" for her when you do not know her. That is not love. That is not intimacy. That is imagination.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 17, 2017 15:02:25 GMT -8
I am going to suggest that you stop with the fantasy about her. Stop making assumptions about how great she might be. Focus on reality. How can you realistically get to know her so that you can make realistic decisions about her. Try to stay present and don't allow yourself to slip into "wondering" or "feeling" for her when you do not know her. That is not love. That is not intimacy. That is imagination. I believe Lovely June is talking about is projection. In a movie theater you sit looking at the screen in front of you. The projector is behind you. What you see is the fantasy of the movie and not the real person. You have to get to know someone by interacting with them to know whether they are who they seem to be. People put forth what we call a persona which means mask in Greek. Rarely do they reveal who they really all until they trust you. Some people hide behind their mask all of their life. Others are more open. It depends on whether they were accepted for who they were as a child or if their real personality was rejected by the people around them. The most important thing for love addicts is that wait to fall in love with a real person and not the projection. This is because we often project an image of the person who rejected as a child or the ideal person who does not exist.
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 17, 2017 16:01:44 GMT -8
I am going to suggest that you stop with the fantasy about her. Stop making assumptions about how great she might be. Focus on reality. How can you realistically get to know her so that you can make realistic decisions about her. Try to stay present and don't allow yourself to slip into "wondering" or "feeling" for her when you do not know her. That is not love. That is not intimacy. That is imagination. I believe Lovely June is talking about is projection. In a movie theater you sit looking at the screen in front of you. The projector is behind you. What you see is the fantasy of the movie and not the real person. You have to get to know someone by interacting with them to know whether they are who they seem to be. People put forth what we call a persona which means mask in Greek. Rarely do they reveal who they really all until they trust you. Some people hide behind their mask all of their life. Others are more open. It depends on whether they were accepted for who they were as a child or if their real personality was rejected by the people around them. The most important thing for love addicts is that wait to fall in love with a real person and not the projection. This is because we often project an image of the person who rejected as a child or the ideal person who does not exist. This is exactly why I want to get know her.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 17, 2017 16:31:22 GMT -8
Great. Get to know her and learn about yourself from all this. And don't forget to love your inner child. She needs you too. I hope it all works out.
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Post by shastafame411 on Oct 20, 2017 14:27:29 GMT -8
God puts people in our life to teach us. Sometimes this is wonderful and sometimes it hurts. This may be an opportunity to explore your sexuality or it may not, but it is very important that you learn as much as you can about yourself. There is an old song. To know, know, know you is to love, love, love you. This is God's song to you . . . Why can't you see? Oh, how blind can you be? To know, know, know you Is to love, love, love you Just to see you smile Makes my life worthwhile To know, know, know you Is to love, love, love you And I do, yes I do, yes I do I'll be good to you And I'll bring love to you Oh, everyone says there'll come a day When I'll walk along side of you And to know, know, know you Is to love, love, love you And I do, yes I do, yes I do Why can't you see? Oh, how blind can you be? Someday you'll see That you were meant for me To know, know, know you Is to love, love, love you Just to see you smile Makes my life worthwhile To know, know, know you Is to love, love, love you And I do, yes I do, yes I do And I do, yes I do, yes I do Yes I do
I'm celebrate recovery. Would it be right if I asked this woman to be my sponsor? I would love to be my sponsor. She's in cr too and I feel she an excellent sponsor. would it be wise to have her as my sponsor I heard at one this woman struggled with chemical dependency. How could someone who struggled help me? I have lots of issues. Not just confusion about my sexuality but depression. I isolate myself. Her job would to be say hi ever once in and see how I'm doing. I would feel more comfortable having her as a mentor. Also I would love her recovery story
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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 20, 2017 14:47:56 GMT -8
I have learned a lot about recovery from love addiction since I talked my PoA into being my sponsor so I would not recommend that you do this with the woman you have a crush on. I did know about the importance of no contact back then and it was only when I move on that the pain went away. You were going to talk to this woman. What happened when your spoke?
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