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Post by Susan Peabody on Oct 31, 2007 15:16:02 GMT -8
(Clarissa Pinkola Estes, Women Who run With the Wolves.) Tears are a river that take you somewhere. Weeping creates a river around the boat that carries your soul life. Tears lift your boat off the rocks, off the dry ground, carrying it down river to someplace new, someplace better. There are oceans of tears men and women have never cried, for they have been trained to carry mother’s and father’s secrets to the grave. Crying has been considered quite dangerous, for it loosens the locks and bolts on the secrets she bears. But in truth, for the sake of our wild soul, it is better to cry. Tears are the beginning of initiation into the Scar Clan, that timeless tribe of men and women of all colors, all nations, all languages, who down through the ages have lived through a great something, and yet who stood proud.
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Post by Kricket on Oct 31, 2007 16:41:00 GMT -8
I love this so much and am so glad I read it. I have been trying to push back the tears afraid too face the pain, afraid that it would only make the pain worse than it already is. After reading this I feel like I just may need a really good cry! Thank you!
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Post by Rainbows Always on Oct 31, 2007 16:45:58 GMT -8
Wow!
what a truly beautiful piece of writing. It touched my soul.
I dont have a problem with crying, they are pretty free flowin around here when they need to be!!
Love that quote. Empowering for women. shaz
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Post by rosemay on Nov 1, 2007 9:13:28 GMT -8
i have a friend that calls tears "holy water".........  I believe that a healthy cry is good for us and helps us move forward in recovery because it is essentially an emotional discharge of pain that we hold. When we don't cry or find some healthy way to discharge, it stores up inside us and creates all kinds of chaos with our serenity. A good cry is like a big emotional s**t and we really do feel a bit better afterward. some us of, probably most of us, have a backlog of grief, so at times it seems like the tears will never end, one session after another, but this really can be a productive time, and it really does lessen the intensity of the grief. I have friends who are envioius of me because I CAN and DO cry. So I say if you have a lot to cry about, go for it!
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Post by aj on Nov 1, 2007 17:13:31 GMT -8
Wow! That is really beautiful. And thanks, I needed this reminder that it is o.k. and sometimes very beneficial to cry. AJ
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Post by Rugbykids2 on Nov 5, 2007 12:13:55 GMT -8
I agree with all the comments posted. Certainly made me want to have me a good cry and let it all go. I feel like spring cleaning my soul.
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Post by Rainbows Always on Nov 5, 2007 16:18:42 GMT -8
gns1030 (do you feel you can post your first name)??
Youre in the right place. Ive cried bucket loads. It is very healing. And a huge part of recovery I believe. In working the programme we have to allow ourselves to "feel' what we are feeling and just sit with it. Even if it hurts. This is an authentic way of healing. Imgald you have found this site. shaz
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Post by jlowe812 on Nov 11, 2007 4:04:58 GMT -8
I hate to cry but can not keept from doing it. I have cried at work for the last 2 days. I can cry at a moments notice right now. I don't want to because I don't want to feel the pain it brings. I don't really understand what it means to be at one with the pain. Feel the pain and let it come. I really want to run from it. Jan
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Post by rosemay on Nov 11, 2007 5:15:20 GMT -8
Jan, if you can find a safe place andf just give yourself permission to cry as long and hard as you need to, it will help you release the pain.
If you don't you end up storing it up inside you and it will come out in different ways, like anxiety, depression, irritibiility, anger, self-destructive behaviour.
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Post by petriced on Nov 13, 2007 22:41:35 GMT -8
I have been doing a lot of crying today. I like that book 'women who run with wolves'. Today I had a very deep counselling session. Now that I am not stuffing my pain down with food, and actually abstinent, all of my anxiety and sadness has overwhelmed me. My counsellor who I completely trust got me to face the root of my obsession over this man in my scriptwriting class who represents my love addicted fantasy of being married in a screen writing partnership and living in America. Unfortunately this same man, who is very supportive of me is only a friend, who is getting married and going back to Colarodo in July next year. I don't want our successful partnership to end, as the script we wrote is up for a major award for short feature film and I see a future with this man. Today I let go of this, and my counsellor held me while I sobbed. I realize now that I can have the same success writing with other people, and that my higher power is going to make the right person come into my life at the time God decides i am ready, not when I decide, because I am an addict addicted to fantasy love and obsession, and I don't know who or what is best for me. Today I just trust and let go. Good luck to everyone who wants to have a good cry. The pain is enormous, but the relief is better. Petrice
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Post by Rainbows Always on Nov 14, 2007 2:41:03 GMT -8
Well said Petrice. Seems like you had an enlightening day huh/ at least you have recognized the r'ship with scriptwriter man for what it is...a fantasy. Thats recovery. shazX
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Post by x4change on Dec 3, 2007 6:33:30 GMT -8
That is just Beautiful... TY butterflygirl.
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Post by ehgfewu on Dec 17, 2007 7:29:47 GMT -8
Haven't been able to get the tears to come in a long, long time. On Friday, I looked at sad stuff on the net just to make myself cry for everything else I couldn't cry about! And yes, I felt better.
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Post by justme on Aug 15, 2008 20:41:26 GMT -8
I have cried so much today, I really understand what a broken heart feels. I felt like my heart and my soul were torn to pieces.
Yet, I do not see crying as positive. I cry easily and freely. I can cry for hours. I don't stuff my feelings. But it physically hurts me, and I can't be good for the body. Plus, much of what I think while crying is a distortion. It is mostly negative stuff. Crying makes me feel weak, and it weakens and exhausts me.
I think crying is overrated.
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Post by sobrietythirst on Aug 16, 2008 13:46:06 GMT -8
I wish I could cry when things go wrong. It feels like it would be such a release. Things days I can't cry when things go wrong in my life. I can cry at a movie or commercial...but not in my life. The crazy thing is for the first time I want to. I don't process things anymore...I feel numb. Even in situations that are supposed to be painful..I don't feel them...I don't go through them.
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Post by jasperfly on Aug 16, 2008 15:10:58 GMT -8
I am a person who has a difficult time crying. This week I have cried buckets because I found out my beloved cat, fly, is dying from a terminal condition. i understand what you mean about tiring a person out, but I do feel better today. My therapist says that feeling our emotions is the important thing and if tears come we must let them or we are denying our emotions. I do hate crying though and usually will do whatever it takes to avoid it, at least while in front of someone else:)
Jasperfly
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Post by Susan Peabody on Aug 16, 2008 15:43:14 GMT -8
I wish I could cry when things go wrong. It feels like it would be such a release. Things days I can't cry when things go wrong in my life. I can cry at a movie or commercial...but not in my life. The crazy thing is for the first time I want to. I don't process things anymore...I feel numb. Even in situations that are supposed to be painful..I don't feel them...I don't go through them. It is typical of people who have had a difficult childhood to be very stoic about major things and cry over spilled milk. This is true for me.
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Post by judy on Aug 16, 2008 16:34:22 GMT -8
I was always chastised as a child for crying too much. In fact, when I was brought home from the hospital as an infant I was colic and couldn't stop crying. My mom's obstetrician told her to put me in a room and let me cry, and not pick me up. I found this out when I was in my 40's.
"The doctor told me to put you in a room and let you cry. That's why you grew up and never needed anyone"
DUH! Well, I said, THAT explains it!
Anyway, I stopped crying as a kid and just held everything in. Until I hit my 40's. And the floods came. Oh my goodness, I have had crying, sobbing, heaving jags like nobody's business. And thank God.
My feeling is that crying is just the opposite of laughing. And I don't stop myself from doing that! (unless it's inappropriate).
I cry at the drop of a hat now. I love that I have the capacity. I didn't for many years.
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Post by bungabali on Aug 16, 2008 17:15:43 GMT -8
I can relate to what you all are saying. Judy how much ENERGY you must have used to hold everything inside. I can't imagine. My first ex would scream at me when I cried so I learned not to cry. I didn't cry to 10 years. Not even when I had to leave my children. I cried over other things - a guy I knew died in the Silk Air plane crash that happened in 97 - I cried alot over that. Even then I felt that I was unable to cry over my own pain so cried over something else.
I feel so much better since being able to cry, I still had a hard time crying until I really worked on letting the POA go. After that, I cried everyday for 6 weeks. Now when I need to cry I still attempt to distract myself but I'm more aware of what I"m doing and I allow the tears to come. People have commented to me and I can see it to, in photographs of me over the past year, I appear more relaxed and at peace. I really believe it is due to the release of old pain.
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Post by bluebird on Aug 16, 2008 23:03:17 GMT -8
I spent years not crying. I have all these old poems about not feeling and being numb. then an event happened years ago and I started crying and couldn't stop for 2 years. They finally put me on antidepressants for awhile and I stopped crying for several years and then... I wept almost easily. I cried very rarely.
when the last POA walked out of my life. I sobbed, with deep anguish, with the abandon of a child, and did so holding my gut for so many nights that my eyes refused to swell anymore. a couple of months later ( after finding this board and starting the steps) I only cried once in a while. Now I weep easily again and very, very, rarely I sob for a few minutes. It's been several months.
Before him, I had not cried that deeply over anything including the deaths of family members. now, that is somewhat out of balance. my reaction to his leaving was intense. I think it was about more than him, I think it was about a long string of leavings that tied themselves onto him in my inner world. Those tears carried a lot away.
I think all that crying is part of clearing and cleaning and making room for my soul to live. bluebird
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Post by amaralita on Dec 17, 2008 18:14:59 GMT -8
I cry almost every day and I really am starting to feel like the challenge for me is not to live out my pain but to allow myself to feel GOOD. That is the hardest thing for me.
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Post by soco2cancan on Feb 16, 2009 0:51:19 GMT -8
This is so true of me too! If I am feeling down someone looking at me funny can send me to tears. Lately though, since finding this sight, I have let the tears flow and flow...
But I am noticing that sometimes when I want to cry I start to busy myself with something else like my studies or going to the gym. I think that is bad, right? Shouldn't I allow those negative feelings to come out right then and there, allowing it to be released from my thoughts?
SC
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Post by Susan Peabody on Feb 16, 2009 12:57:47 GMT -8
We talk about this in AA all the time. It is a common trait. We learn to be stoic in our family of origin because that is expected of us. Our emotions build up and the smallest thing can open Pandora's box.
When I was 14 my brother was electrocuted. At the funeral I heard people say about me, "Isn't Susan being a brave little soldier." I liked the attention I was getting for being brave so I was stoic through one tragedy over another. But if you caught me alone and I stubbed my toe you would think the world had come to an end.
We must learn to feel our emotions appropriately and a little at a time. (The exception is grief work. Then we can really let go. It helps to do this with an "enlightened witness" (therapist).There is a forum with all kinds of helpful hints. The link is below.
By appropriate I mean we should always look at our emotions carefully and try to get to the core emotion. Often people get angry in order to cover up the fear or powerlessness. Or they are happy and giddy around others to cover up deep depression. I could go on and on, but you get the point. Dig until you get to the core emotion which is usually fear and then process it as instructed on the thread in the emotions forum.laarecovery.proboards99.com/index.cgi?board=loveemotions
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Post by triggered on Mar 5, 2009 22:31:39 GMT -8
I cried three times today, and each time i was able to stop and take an action, do something to get out of my head even if it was for 10 minutes. Now it's 10:30 at night, and I'm okay. Before I would let the emotions overtake me. Now I know they're just emotions that will pass.
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Post by laurie13 on Apr 22, 2009 11:44:21 GMT -8
I am crying right now and I want to share with you why.
My POA was sending me a lot of text messages lately, he was saying that he loves me and wants me again and again, after 5 breakups. But I ignored him cause he is a sick SW and I now that he maybe needs me for sex, but he doesn't love me.
He has been hurting me for more that 1 year, leaving me, playing hot and cold, and I'm proud of myself that I find the strength to finally leave him and ignore him to protect myself.
Ten minutes ago he called, and I answered (I broke NC) to say him to leave me alone. I said to him that he doesn't love me (because if he loved me, he would have wanted to be in relationship with me and not leaving me through text messages and phone) and that he hurt me much and I ask him not to call me anymore. I hope he would finally leave me alone, because I want to get better. I hope I'm in a right path to do so.
It's much easier now. I'm proud of myself, because I couldn't say to him these things a month ago. Before I didn't want to hurt him and in that way I hurt myself staying with him.
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Post by gordana on Jun 21, 2009 8:26:56 GMT -8
Growing up in my alcoholic family thaught me to hide my feelings. Many times I would hide in order to cry. My mothers favorite words were: What's wrong with you now. There is something always wrong with you. I came to believe that my feelings of sadness were wrong. It is wonderful and healing to be able to cry. I too do not lie the pain but in the end I feel more joy than ever.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Jun 21, 2009 12:46:23 GMT -8
At times like this remember to love your inner child or let your higher power do it.
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Post by berly on Sept 1, 2009 13:21:59 GMT -8
I love that picture!!!! (The little baby held by Jesus...at least that's how I see it.) I cried a lot today, but I am okay and putting one foot in front of the other...like a toddler.
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Post by vee25 on Jan 25, 2010 3:39:23 GMT -8
WOW, I've just printed that picture off to look at of the baby with jesus as it really brought a lump to my throat to see God's love looking at the beautiful child.
My father was never able to show me this love and its what i've always craved. This is sad to feel and it hurts so i want to be able to feel it and not push it away.
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Post by jivamukti on Jan 25, 2010 19:15:10 GMT -8
HP gives me the love my own father was not able to give to me. It was hard to know that he loved his alcohol more then me. I think I lived my whole life finding men to be my daddy to love me unconditionally, but I only found men like daddy....addicted, and unable to love me. I cried so much. It felt good. Now HP holds me, like the photo of jesus and the baby. I can trust and surrender to HP.
If somebody needs to cry, go see the movie 7 POUNDS with Wil Smith. My husband and I cried for an hour together when the movie ended. It felt so good.
Peace, Jivamukti
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