RoseNadler
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Post by RoseNadler on Apr 11, 2022 11:27:44 GMT -8
Last night, I said to L (Partner of 20 years; split up for about 3 years but now been back together 3 years):
“I love you.”
His answer: “Thank you.”
What I wanted to say: “THANK YOU??” (meaning, “I was expecting ‘I love you too.’)
What I DID say: “Do you love me?”
His answer: “Yes, I do.”
Then after we went to sleep, I had a nightmare, and he woke me up, saying, “Wake up! Wake up!” Years ago, when the relationship was new, he would hold me and comfort me when I had a nightmare. Not anymore.
He seemed perfectly normal this morning: the usual hug, kiss, smile, and nice look in his eyes, upon getting up and then again as he left for work.
But all my anxiety and fear of abandonment are back today.
I listened to a self-hypnosis audio about feeling insecure, and that helped some. But my heart is still in an “alert” status.
I just wonder: 1) When we had our problems, did I ruin the relationship beyond repair? 2) I’ve always been more needy of love and reassurance than most people. So maybe we’re normal for a long-term couple, and it’s just me freaking out because I’m damaged in this part of my personality.
I’ve been praying all day, avoiding news websites, and now I’m posting here - all in an effort to deal with anxiety.
My anxiety has been worse before, but I’m beginning to think I’ll never really be OK in that area of life. And once anxiety gets in, it spreads to other parts of my life like work.
I really hope someone responds to this today. I need to feel like I’m not alone.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Apr 11, 2022 14:08:40 GMT -8
I have studied men and emotional intimacy for years starting with Lillian Rubin's book, Intimate Strangers.
She says that because a man's primary caretaker is a women (different gender), boys grow up to have a love/hate/fear relationship with their mothers. When they marry a woman, these unconscious issues interfere with their ability to be emotionally intimate. This helped me understand my husband Frank who also did not spontaneously say he loved me but would say yes when I asked.
In Pollack's book, Real Men, he explains that men are taught by their mothers, fathers, and the society they live in (including media) to be strong and not emotional. Men suffer from this. I learned this from the men I have treated in my career and in 12-Step Meeting.
My opinion is that your guy is going pretty good . . .
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RoseNadler
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Post by RoseNadler on Apr 11, 2022 15:48:20 GMT -8
Yeah, I got to thinking about it. One my of main love languages is words of affirmation. That can be tough, because a lot of men are not socialized to say the words. And I’ve noticed that the few men who *are* really fluent with words, tend to be the men who will lie, use flattery, that kind of negative way to be good with words. As a person with a love language of words, I’ve been vulnerable to, and terribly hurt by, men who are slick talkers. And then I’ve probably missed out on some wonderful men because they just didn’t have the verbal skills - it took me a long time to start seeing non-verbal things men sometimes do to show love and interest.
L is always showing me something interesting he has read or seen on TV. We watch TV together most nights after dinner, and he makes an effort to find things I like on TV — he knows my tastes, and luckily we have similar interests and similar likes and dislikes.
When we have a gift-giving occasion, he always puts a lot of thought into whatever he gives me - the colors and styles I like, my interests, etc.
While we were still split up (but soon before we got back together 3 years ago), he gave me a silver bracelet for Xmas. He’d left the receipt in case I wanted to exchange it. So that’s how I know it cost $300.
We’re not poor, but we aren’t rich enough so he would give a $300 bracelet to a woman he just likes as a friend. That year’s Xmas gift really made me stop and think; he obviously thought a lot of me. That gift helped me gather the courage about two months later to ask if we could try again as a couple. And when we had that conversation, he did say, “I love you,” without any nudging from me.
I try not to overdo saying, “I love you;” I figure birthdays and Xmas are safe to say it—and then I ration myself to saying it about once every two months. And every time I’ve said it until now, he said, “I love you too.” This time was the first time he said something different.
And now, it’s evening and we’re home on the couch, and everything seems pretty normal.
So I’m inclined to think I just have a heightened fear of abandonment.
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