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Post by RoseNadler on Aug 27, 2022 7:24:22 GMT -8
Even though I have a long-term, live-in partner, I’m still addicted.
He isn’t as affectionate as I wish he was. A few years ago, we hurt each other badly, and my addiction made a horrible mess of everything. We’re together again, but I feel insecure most of the time. What if my addiction ruined the best relationship of my life?
I’m powerless over whether he loves me and wants me, or doesn’t. And I’m powerless over my strong need to have him love me and want me.
I do believe there’s a God. Some force in the universe has protected me from a lot worse things happening, and tried to give me chances at good things.
I need the strength and courage to let go and trust God, and that’s so hard. My prayers go, “Please, God, heal and completely restore my relationship with L.” Then I say, “Thy will, not my will, be done,” but on this one topic, I don’t really mean it. I mean, “Please, God, take away anything else, but don’t take this away from me.”
I’m afraid if the relationship ended, I’d be all alone for the rest of my life. I’m 58 now; no longer young and desirable. I have a terrible track record with relationships. I’ve had chances at “happily ever after,” but I blew it every single time.
I feel like I’m defective, damaged and crazy; and the best I can hope for is to stay out of serious trouble until I’m allowed to retire. Then I can go hide somewhere, in some sleepy little town where nobody knows me, and just read books until I die.
I’m asking my Higher Power, from the deepest depths of me, to help me.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Aug 27, 2022 7:38:11 GMT -8
Rose, my heart goes out to you. I too feel and act like a love addict sometimes, but only with friends. Last week I met a new friend for coffee and at the end I asked for a weekly commitment. I wanted assurance that we could see each other again. I should have just said something like 'Let's do this again sometime."
But I have known you a long time and you have a good recovery program. You will figure this out and make the right decisions. Maybe do a list of pros and cons about this guy and compare them. The feelings, once we are attached, will always be stronger for us love addicts than others. I don't think there is much we can do about it. It is easier to manage our behavior.
Take care Susan
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Post by RoseNadler on Aug 27, 2022 8:05:30 GMT -8
Part of the problem is that there are a lot of other life stresses right now:
1) I have to work at the office now, instead of WFH. That drains my energy. I feel like I have to keep up appearances more. I really think now that the ideal work situation for me would be hybrid. I was alone too much while it was all WFH. I need *some* time going out and seeing people. Just not as much as the “real world” demands.
2) I’m just getting over COVID. L. had it too. While that was going on, he (quite reasonably) was even less physically affectionate than usual. My mind knew that he was right: don’t spread germs. My inner child/inner teenager felt utterly abandoned.
3) Yesterday afternoon, the power company screwed something up while they were trying to “fix” something. We haven’t had electricity in our apartment since then. L. has been in a disgruntled mood about it (understandably) and has been doing practical things to help solve the problem. But he’s in problem-handling mode and doesn’t have any energy left for being affectionate with me.
I’ve held it together OK so far (I think). I went to my favorite place of solace, the local bookstore. It’s air conditioned and they have wifi. I just got paid, so I had money to put gas in the car and grab a bite to eat.
Just being in a bookstore or library really helps me.
This message board helps a lot.
Your answering me right away was balm to my soul.
And—I stopped writing for a few minutes because I got into a conversation with a woman at the bookstore, who seems to be worse off than I am. She’s living in her van right now. (She does have an occupation and job prospects, so things are looking up for her.)
I think HP came through for me.
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Post by Shirley on Aug 27, 2022 9:45:34 GMT -8
Hello Rose, thank you for sharing, Can I ask you a favour? Read over your share and ask if you would be judging a friend as you have so harshly judged yourself just like a good co-dependent. 58 is not old, I bet you look fabulous. You are healthy and clever to hold down employment and smart to recognize what works best for you. Thats all great qualities; you have many more.
I have my self-esteem back (Susan made sure of that) but more, I have my self-worth and it feels fabulous. Always remember to love yourself. All the love you think you can get from another, its inside of you. This was my first big break through . . . what I'm looking for is within me.
Love & kindness Shirley
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Post by RoseNadler on Aug 28, 2022 8:00:18 GMT -8
I know I have a serious problem with being mean to myself and being hard on myself. I wish I could have that go away, or least reduce the intensity of it.
What is a moderate, reasonable way to think about yourself? If you don’t want to do bad things to other people and bring negative things to the world around you, you do have to hold yourself to some standards. In my past, I’ve behaved in ways that hurt other people. Sometimes I think I’m never going to get over that, never forgive myself.
My brain tells me that there has to be a way to find moderation in all of this. I’ve done some wrong things. However, a lot of people have done even worse things that I’ve NEVER done (murder, torture, genocide, various violent crimes.) I’ve never even done any big crimes against property. Very petty theft and minor vandalism (in childhood.) In fact, I’ve never even done anything bad enough to be considered a felony. Not even that many misdemeanors.
And other people have hurt me, and I always get over being angry after awhile. Most of the time, I can even understand why they did it (even though I don’t like it.)
How can I be more moderate with my guilt? How can I have standards and make myself bring good to the world (or at least, avoid bringing bad to the world)—but somehow, stop beating myself up and feeling terrible about myself?
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Post by RoseNadler on Sept 3, 2022 11:49:08 GMT -8
Two things can be true at the same time.
Last week, I realized something. There’s a story here that might amuse you.
I’m heavily into music and have been all my life. I have a 30-minute commute to and from work (each way) and I use that time to listen to music and really rock out. I need that. It’s healing for me.
Anyway, I had been listening to a lot of stuff by Eric Clapton that week. I didn’t want to tell people, though. Because Eric Clapton has turned out to be a real jerk of a human being. He’s a major COVID denier, has a bad track record with women, and is known to be one of those celebrities who’s difficult. A lot of people don’t like him as a person.
Eric Clapton has also created some of the best music ever to exist on this planet.
Those two things can be true at the same time.
So I started extrapolating from that to other situations where two things can be true at the same time, and ended up at this:
L. (my partner) doesn’t always want to be physically affectionate with me. He doesn’t want that as much as I do.
Also: I am lovable and desirable. Even at times when L. doesn’t want to touch me.
There are a lot of ways to put this.
L.’s level of affection towards me does NOT indicate my lovability.
Two things can be true at the same time.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Sept 4, 2022 13:05:49 GMT -8
Two things can be true at the same time. This is true. I could be angry at my husband and still love him. I could love my son but not like him. I can respect someone and not like them. I can pray and meditate at the same time. I think. I can be depressed and also hopeful at the same time. Things do not necessarily cancel out the other emotion. Before recovery, one emotion would cancel the other one out. It was all or nothing. My personality would split into love one moment hate the next. Now they overlap and I have learned to gently guide myself to my positive emotions in the blink of the eye . . . most times. Progress not perfection. At least in recovery, I know what the right/healthy emotion. It is always loving supportive, kind, but not codependent. Susan
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