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Post by LovelyJune on Apr 15, 2015 3:04:32 GMT -8
fulfill, are you describing yourself or your husband? You need to be healthy in order to attract other healthy people.
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Post by paisley on Apr 15, 2015 8:27:18 GMT -8
I'm also noticing this "taking your time" thing seems to change as men age. I've been unattached for the past two years and I notice the younger men (under 40) are much more plugged in and eager. The older guys are in no rush, at least not with me. A 53 year old guy I talked to Saturday night told me he sees a mismatch between men and women in our age group (women being more sexual and eager). That might explain why I find myself getting "hit on" by the younger guys, but the older guys show interest but make no real move. He himself admitted to taking months between his first and second date with his current girlfriend.
The lack of urgency is baffling to me, but I suppose that's the healthy way to go.
Of course I'm generalizing and I have not met a compatible guy with mutual interest over the past two years. When a guy doesn't contact me for weeks or months I assume there's no interest. Society tells us not to make time for people who don't make time for us, or not to prioritize someone who doesn't prioritize us, but I suppose shutting the door on someone because I'm not currently his sole focus comes from a place of neediness and immaturity. I suppose we're just supposed to go about our lives as they are and if we cross paths or have a renewed interest in the future, take it as it comes.
I guess I'm so entrenched in LA thinking that I want my love to be fast and intense...when it's slow paced and non-responsive I feel I'm not that desirable to that person and I stop looking at them as love interests (out of sight, out of mind) I guess that's better than my past pining and obsessing, but it's strange for me. It's just weird to basically have no one on my radar for such long periods.
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Post by LovelyJune on Apr 16, 2015 2:36:51 GMT -8
I guess I'm so entrenched in LA thinking that I want my love to be fast and intense...when it's slow paced and non-responsive I feel I'm not that desirable to that person and I stop looking at them as love interests (out of sight, out of mind) I guess that's better than my past pining and obsessing, but it's strange for me. It's just weird to basically have no one on my radar for such long periods. Fast and intense is ok if you're Romeo and Juliet (weren't they 15 and 16 years old?) But fast and intense is a RED FLAG as an adult. It signals a man's (or woman's) lack of control over his emotions. It signals impulsivity and carelessness. As we get older and learn our value, we are more hesitant to just give it away to anyone we feel attracted to. We also tend to realize that those intense emotions are fleeting. This may sound boring to a teenager, or a love addict. Both tend to base their value judgments on their emotions, not logic. When I first started dating D, he moved slower. This bothered me at times. Why doesn't he call every day? Why doesn't he want to see me every chance he gets? I interpreted it as meaning that he wasn't that into me. But that was false. He was into me! But, he also had a professional job, two children, a whole life outside of me. AND most importantly, he'd been burned. So...he was cautious. I had to learn to get out of my own head (it's not all about me, me, me), be patient and understand that the absence of intensity and "urgency" does not equate to disinterest. And don't get me wrong, once we got going, there was loads of intensity, but by that point, there was also intimacy. It was as if we had earned the right to be intense because we build a sturdy foundation for it, first. Dating is rough. Waiting in between dates can be even rougher. What ended up grounding me and making me feel better was to try to enjoy my life as if I might never date again. I know that seems extreme to some, but it was a relief for me. I was able to be happy, instead of always LONGING. I hated longing. That was probably the most difficult part of my LA.
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Post by denverdignity on Aug 6, 2015 8:56:28 GMT -8
Great job Vivi!
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Post by caro88 on Jan 5, 2016 8:58:05 GMT -8
Right now I am with someone, a person that I considered the perfect guy, he doesn't like to drink or other drug, he is respectful, faithfull, etc, but there is another thing that is really important for me now that I didn't see before I started to date with this person, that this person has to be a independent guy, right now I think I am dealing with someone ambivalent because he is insecure of leaving his family.
What a tradegy.
I like the comment that lovellen wrote: " I will only date men who are available and ready to commit ". That is a good value to take into account before starting a new relationship.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2016 9:55:55 GMT -8
I blamed my ex's family for many years for my relationship problems, they didn't respect my boundaries, they were abusive, they interfered etc but the real problem was he was a love avoidant and I a love addict. He was emotionally closed, appeased his family and I without following through on his words, he is a child in a man's body which at the end I saw clearly but I never saw that I too was an adult child. I though if he changed we would be happy - the ironic thing is had he somehow changed I still would not of been happy! I am as avoidant as he is, water seeks its own level so we seek like minded people whilst believing it's just them with the problem.
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Post by caro88 on Jan 5, 2016 16:07:26 GMT -8
Thank you From the ashes, I'll need to take some time alone with myself to think with honesty the reality.
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Post by Susan Peabody on Jan 6, 2016 9:41:20 GMT -8
I blamed my ex's family for many years for my relationship problems, X This is very common. I call it transference. This is why the first step in my recovery program, outlined in my book, is to admit that you have a problem and focus on you not the shortcomings of your mate. Codependents try to fix themselves by trying to fix their mate. It is like the little girl taking care of her doll to vicariously get the love they don't get from their parents. [See Robin Norwood]
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Post by caro88 on Jan 6, 2016 12:35:27 GMT -8
Hello, Susan Peabody, yes you are totally right, I am not going to ask him anymore to change, or making plans with this person anymore, because this guy is not the guy I want to be. I will focus since now on in my recovery, in my plans, what I am going to do, maybe is sad to see that for this time, again, I am not going to have children or have a family, but is better, because I will be devasted later to see me with the same person but with children. That will be terrible, and it will be terrible also to my children. And having feith that this person will change is like living in a dream, I can not control that.
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Post by loveelleng on Jul 25, 2017 5:23:59 GMT -8
What Makes a Relationship Successful? Can anyone really be sure that his or her relationship with a partner is a “success?” About two years ago what I thought was a successful relationship really wasn’t. Sure, I loved the guy I was dating and he loved me (well, that’s what he said, anyway), but we laughed a lot, communicated deeply, we had great sex and we never fought. Of course, I still fretted over whether or not he could be trusted. And I would catch him in little lies here and there. And there was always that sense of dread in me that he would go out with his friends and drink or smoke pot. But I stuffed those feelings and ignored them, because, in my mind, the bigger picture was that we were getting along so well. The bigger picture, in my mind, was to keep the peace and not sweat the small stuff. And it worked. Temporarily. Until it didn’t. And when we split up, I was dumbfounded. How could something so perfect have failed? After a significant amount of time crying and mourning the passing of this relationship, the obvious made itself known (it always does). We, as a couple, liked each other, we were even extremely attracted to each other mentally, physically, even spiritually. But we did not share certain core values that, after time, started to betray both of us. He really believed in the healing powers of marijuana. It was a huge part of his “spiritual life”. I, on the other hand, felt it was merely an addiction and mere bottom line behavior. I believe in clean living and the idea that spirituality is present when we remove things from our system, not put it into our system. But he, even though I rarely said anything directly, could still pick up on my disapproval of him and he sensed a rift. Likewise, I felt increasingly uncomfortable, as if I were betraying myself. I was. We both were. We were not honoring our core values. And when people do not share the same core values in life, the relationship has a much bigger chance of failing. So, what does any of this have to do with a successful relationship? For starters, sharing the same values with your partner is the key most important ingredient to a healthy relationship. If you don’t share the same values, you are building a rather shaky foundation. For love addicts, this means it is imperative to know what your values are before you go out looking for a life partner, before you accept just anyone into your life. For example, one of my values is: Whether it’s right or wrong, I cannot date men who do drugs or have a drinking problem. I realized this value of mine late in life. For the longest time I knew I had an extreme aversion to even the most socially harmless recreational drug use. For years I tried to be like everyone else and just accept it from other people. I even partook in it so as to be with the “in” crowd. But each time it came up, it interfered with my emotional and mental peace of mind and literally put me in pain. I realized too that it didn’t so much bother me when a friend did it (because I had no dependence on that friend), but it bothered me enormously if my boyfriend did it. Because I spend so much time with my boyfriend, his drug use has a greater impact on my life. Finally, I realized something very important: this aversion of mine to drugs may not be balanced or healthy, but it’s not going away and I better start making peace with it and I better start honoring my own spirit by staying away from people who do it. As soon as “no drugs” became a value of mine, I was able to look for someone who also shared that same value. It helps when two people share the same interests, but it’s essential for them to share core values. Suggestion: write a list of your core values. It can be anything from “I need a partner who desires me physically,” to “I will only date men who do not lie, cheat or steal.” A value is stronger than a preference. “I prefer women with red hair” is not exactly a value, it’s a preference. If you don’t find it, you can live without it. A value, on the other hand, you cannot live without. Once you have a clearer picture of what is most important to you start to practice maintaining those values. For example, if you have children, one of your core values might be “I only want to surround myself with people who accept my children and treat them with kindness and respect.” How does this value stack up to the people currently in your life? Do they adhere to this value of yours? If they don’t, you need to reassess the relationship. Remember: values are in place to keep you safe and to allow you to honor your core self and help you maintain a peaceful, healthy life. Your values are what you are worth. They should be more important than love or sex with a partner who does not share or respect your values. When you let your values go, you let toxic people in and you compromise you worth. Second, and equally important for a successful relationship is trust. Both you and your partner need to trust each other and be trusted. Without trust, almost any relationship will fall apart. If you are anything like me, a love addict who grew up in a family where she was unable to trust one parent (or both!), then you will have a very difficult time learning to trust someone you just meet. This inability to trust is there for a reason. You were taught to mistrust. And when you enter into a new relationship you need to take it slow and you need to spend a fair amount of time mistrusting and questioning the honesty and validity of the relationship. It is your way of protecting yourself from diving into something too quickly, or possibly getting hurt again. Building trust is a slow and oftentimes awkward process. Even if your new partner is completely trustworthy, there might be times when you harbor doubt. Remember to have patience with yourself and ask for patience from your partner. In time, you will learn to trust again. If you don’t see yourself making progress and you constantly find yourself doubting your partner and mistrusting him or her, you need to be completely honest with yourself. Do you feel this way because there is cause to doubt? Do you feel uncomfortable trusting your partner? If this is the case, he or she may not be entirely trustworthy and your instincts are picking up on it. Suggestion: think of all the people in your life, friends, family members, co-workers, etc. Is there anyone you spend time with where you feel completely relaxed and trusting in their presence? If yes, this is the “feeling” you want to achieve from your partner. If you are not feeling that same sense of calm, trust your instinct. There probably is a reason to doubt this person. A third component to any successful relationship is communication. There are literally hundreds of books on “how to communicate” and I think that if anyone feels they could benefit from a book like this, bury the pride and go out and get one. Communication is essential to a successful relationship. Body language is great. Physical attraction is great. Compatibility is great. But if you and your partner can’t understand one another, and if there isn’t a mutual platform of comprehension for each other, then there is, in my opinion, no relationship. Communication embodies everything form “pass the potatoes,” to deep conversations about the meaning of life. It also embodies every emotion you possess and the way you express those emotions. Do you scream when you don’t get your way? Do you pout when no one understands you? Do you throw things during an argument? Do you close down completely and sometimes refuse to talk if you’re angry? How is your ability to negotiate? Do you lie to get your way? Are you passive aggressive? Are you a poor listener? All of these are ways in which good communication can be completely sabotaged. The key to good communication is an ability to get your feelings and thoughts across to your partner, in a calm, respectful, adult-like manner. It is to negotiate peacefully and respectfully, and to realize you will not always get your way or be understood. When we go through recovery we tend to need better tools, better ways of doing things. Communication is a prime example. Our old tools, our old ways of getting what we want or avoiding situations don’t work in a healthy relationship. Pouting if we don’t get what we want doesn’t go over very well with someone who doesn’t communicate in that way (guilt). If we have any hope of communicating with a healthy person, we must speak their language, which is based on give and take and mutual respect. Suggestion: how do you communicate with friends and family members? Do you find that you communicate differently with a partner? Why? How do you communicate with a partner? Are you communicating in this way because the relationship draws it out of you this way, or because you communicate with everyone this way? Write a list of some of the faulty ways in which you have tried to get your point across. Do you think if you were with someone healthy, who was a better listener, who didn’t judge you that you would not communicate the same? A fourth component is respect. Respect for self and for others lays the foundation for love, tolerance, patience, pleasure, gratification and so much more. When you have self-respect you have dignity. And when you have respect for others, you have a deeper understanding of what it is like to be human. The value of respect in a successful relationship can be measured by the strength and empowerment it creates between two people. Think back and remember the respect bestowed upon by a teacher or a parent. How did that make you feel? Did it make you feel loved, empowered, motivated to return the respect? Respect begets respect. It’s as simple as that. Suggestion: Research the definition of “respect.” For our purposes, it is a “feeling of deep admiration for someone elicited by their abilities, qualities or achievements.” How does your partner size up to that definition? Does he or she have enough admirable qualities to earn your respect? If your partner has cheated on you repeatedly, how does “respect” play into your feelings for him or her? Do you respect yourself? Do you respect your partner? If there is an abundant lack of respect, you need to assess yours and your partner’s reasons for staying together. People who love each other, respect each other. Finally, every successful relationship needs love. The word love to a love addict is complicated. But for starters, I can tell you what love is not: love is NOT butterflies in the stomach or lust or limerance or sexual compatibility. Love is generally NOT anything that comes during the first 0-9 months of a hot and heavy, passionate relationship. Love is not “attraction” or “love at first sight” or even “attachment, or “need.” And although it is very closely related to all those things, it is none of them, independently. From my own healthy experience I can say that when I first met my boyfriend I experienced curiosity. Then I experienced doubt. Then interest. Then lust, butterflies, need, want, sexual compatibility; then friendship and closeness, and so on, all the while building a more solid foundation of trust, respect and communication while maintaining all my core values in the presence of this person. Under that scenario “love” was built. If this scenario continues, love will continue to be built and strengthen the two of us. And for the sake of our understanding here, I have to say that love is something that is built over time and though you can have strong feelings for someone, it isn’t necessarily “love,” unless you are MUTUALLY constructing a foundation of trust, respect and good communication while each maintaining your values. I also want to add that two people can love each other very much, even after MANY years, but treat each other poorly, disrespectfully, coldly and neglectfully. Even though this may, by very low standards be “love” it is NOT a sign of a healthy, successful relationship. If you just have love and you don’t have respect or peaceful communication, or trust; if you lack values and allow your partner to treat you poorly or neglect you, this is NOT a sign of a healthy relationship. Remember, the object of a successful relationship is to be happy, in spite of remaining realistic about the suffering and pain that inevitably comes with life. Happiness comes from the connections we make. And the more successful those connections are, the happier we are. If you are in a relationship where you love your partner, but your lives together are a constant struggle and you are constantly in pain and suffering, due to lack of trust, respect, warmth, kindness, hoping your partner will change, you need to recognize that the relationship in NOT working, and you need to move on. Suggestion: many of us still believe that “love will save the day,” and “love conquers all,” and “if he loves me, then everything will be OK.” While this is great for Disney and Hollywood, it is not realistic for an actual, healthy, real, live relationship. A relationship is not as superficial as Hollywood makes it out to be. And love may be one thing, but a successful relationship is something else completely. The bottom line is this: a successful relationship is based on two people who have a mutual interest in loving the other, trusting the other, respecting the other, communicating with the other, being with the other and building a relationship, while maintaining their core values. Ask yourself if this represents your current relationship. Does your relationship have trust but not love? Does it have respect but poor communication? Why are ALL these things important to the whole of the relationship? Also, love is subjective. What is your definition of love. Do you need lots of space, or do you prefer closeness? How often do you prefer to have sex? What level of intimacy are you most comfortable with? A lot or a little? How do you wish a partner would show you love? Do you like to be called every day? Do you need him or her to buy you gifts every once in awhile? Do you need to hear, “I love you” often? The more you know about how you would like to be loved the better chance you have of finding someone who can love you in ways you would like.
Lastly, there are a slew of other things that every successful relationship should have. For example, little to no drama, peace and stability, humor, acceptance, common ground, compatibility, gratitude, etc. And how about this: not nagging your partner, not constantly wishing he or she will "change," not giving 100 percent, not trying to control him or her, etc. But I’ve found that these things tend to come organically, once the other components are in place. When you are healthy within yourself and you know yourself, you know what to look for in a partner and so it becomes easier to accept them as they are. When you take anything you can get, you have huge hurdles to overcome because you never actively participated in choosing your partner. Again, I say over and over, the better you know and love yourself, the better chance you have of finding and creating a successful relationship. This, of course, is a cookie-cutter version of what a “successful” relationship is. And it is my version—I have written it only after dating D for one year. Though that is a HUGE accomplishment for me (the first of its kind, mind you!), a year is a very small amount of time. Who knows if we will continue to try so hard to make “us” work. Nothing is certain. And yet, the more time we spend working on “us” the stronger the bond becomes. Will there be set backs? Yes. Will there be awkward moments? Of course. Will there be “winters” of our relationship, as D calls them? Inevitably. Can we get through them? I hope so. One thing is certain, the more you work on yourself and the more you KNOW yourself and the more you love yourself, and the more you remain intact and have an identity of your own, the easier a relationship becomes. I used to get so frustrated when I was younger when my mother would always tell me, "you have to love yourself before anyone can love you." When you are filled with hate and anger, you attract hateful, angry people. When you are riddled with doubt, you attract mistrustful people. When you do not know your limitations and values and what YOU need to survive, how on earth can you filter out toxic people? When you are unprepared for war and you head into battle without knowing the landscape, without having enough ammo or support, you are sure to lose. Build a relationship with YOU first, create YOURSELF, so that when someone good comes along you will recognize him or her and you will have something to offer. Very very true ,all the people I selected were untrusted worthy person ,liars , cheating ,manipulating , judgemental, very fake .in fact ,they are not only untrustworthy,but toxics . I think trustworthy is very very very important for me ... I need time to trust ,but the first thing ,I need to healing and trust myself ....
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Post by loveelleng on Oct 8, 2017 1:41:13 GMT -8
onmypath-- That's a very good question! Not many people even know what values are. I didn't really have an idea about my values until age 40. I would suggest you start with a list of likes and dislikes in other people. Think of the people currently in your life and those from your past. Did they have any qualities that really disturbed or upset you to the point where you said, "I cannot deal with this person at all!" For example, say your ex PoA always "neglected" you. When you wanted to talk to him he wouldn't pick up his phone even though you knew he was home. The feeling of this "crushed" you. That being said, one of your values would be "I cannot remain in a committed relationship with someone who ignores or neglects me." Once you put this on your list, YOU STICK TO IT. You don't bend. And the reason you don't bend is because this VALUE is about maintaining your honor and self-worth. On the other hand, say you dated a guy (or girl!) and he or she picked their teeth with a toothpick at the dinner table (funny, perhaps! But this type of behavior bothers some people). Every time this person did this particular behavior it drove you nuts and you didn't like it. Is trying to avoid this kind of behavior a VALUE? Probably not. But the bigger picture could be "I need to have a relationship with some who doesn't embarrass me in public." So you see, VALUES are things, concepts, ideas that you recognize as being EXTREMELY important to you (must haves) and once you know what they are, you stay true to them. By staying true to them, you only let in people that are good for your well-being. Your values will not be the same as mine. What is really important to you, might not be to me. VALUES are personal. But they rarely change throughout the years, unlike "preferences" (i.e. the guy picking his teeth at the table). Here's a list of my VALUES and below is a list of my "preferences" in dating. See if you can see the difference. MY VALUES: 1. I will not remain in a committed relationship with someone who drinks heavily or does drugs. Absolutely no way. 2. I will not remain in a committed relationship with someone who lies. 3. I will not remain in a committed relationship with someone who cheats. 4. I will not remain in a committed relationship with someone who cannot take care of himself 5. I will not remain in a committed relationship with someone who does not treat my children or his with decency and respect 6. I will not remain in a committed relationship with someone who hurts or abuses me mentally or physically. 7. I will not remain in a committed relationship with someone who does not enjoy physical affection and sex. 8. I will not remain in a committed relationship with someone who doesn't allow me my space 9. I will not remain in a committed relationship with someone who is an avoidant 10. I will not remain in a committed relationship with someone who is not mutually committed to me. My preferences: 1. I would really like the person I am committed to to be intelligent and teach me things. 2. I would really like the person I am committed to to be musical and play guitar. 3. I would really like the person I am committed to to have a great sense of humor 4. I would really like the person I am committed to to be a good listener 5. I would really like the person I am committed to to be great in bed 6. I would really like the person I am committed to to enjoy travel 7. I would really like the person I am committed to to be financially stable (this might be a VALUE for someone else) 8. I would really like the person I am committed to to be open-minded about religious views and tolerant of all religions 9. I would really like the person I am committed to to like spending lots of time indoors 10. I would really like the person I am committed to to enjoy my family and friends. Do you see the difference? Why don't you share your list herke, for others to see. I found honest is very important for me, extremely important,my whole life deal liars and bring a victim. Now as a friend, lover, partner, anything, honest is no1 important for me . Also leave abusive garbage people
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Post by loveelleng on Oct 11, 2017 1:26:57 GMT -8
My core values... I forgot about them when I was in relationships so it will be a good reminder to myself!! - I will only date men who are available and ready to commit - I will only date men who are honest, respectful and gentle I will only surround myself with honest, respectful and gentle people - I will only date men who respect and accept my healing journey/ my recovery (especially my sexual healing journey!! No more pressure please!) I will only surround myself with people who respect my healing journey/ my recovery - I will only date men who drink in moderation and not into drugs Soon after I was newly single, two male friends of mine let me know they liked me... One was sweet but pushy (and way too young) and kept giving me hints... so I had to be firm. He carried on which was really uncomfortable. The other one, showed me his true colors and it wasn't pretty ( he just wanted to have sex)... It was a bit sad but I had to let them both go. Last December, I met a guy in a cafe and I was immediately attracted to him. He was at the table next to mine and was talking about crystal healing so I jumped in. he ended up inviting me at a Kabbalah meeting. He told me he would meet me at the station then he called me to tell me he would be at the centre... When I arrived, he was all stressed because I was late and he was a bit bossy. He told me he would attend the meeting with me then, he didn't. This wasn't a good start for me! After the meeting, we went for a cup of tea and we chatted. Suddenly he told me he had to go! I was surprised and asked him what he had planned, he looked at me suspisciously and replied "I am meeting a friend." We exchanged a few messages during the week and then I tried to meet him, although I had doubts. He said he would let me know but didn't... So, after a few days, I just send him another message saying it was nice to meet him and wishing him a happy life!! I met another guy at my writing group. We had this amazing spiritual connection and we went to coffee a couple of time. I wanted to meet him for creative events but every time I mentioned it, he said yes but nothing followed through. I wasn't attracted to him in a romantic or sexual way at all but I was dissapointed he never acted on his promises so I let him go too. I had a couple of dates with a sweet man but I wasn't in a good place at all. He was still living at his parents with whom he had a very detached relationship... and loved going to raves - both things reminded me of my ex!! I decided to let him go to look after myself. So, I guess, I did really well stinking up to my values for the last year! Well done me! This is so important!!! I would read it and remind myself everyday! This is core problem, I have trust issues about human beings.
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Post by Summer_Azure on Jan 4, 2021 9:58:16 GMT -8
I wish I had read this thread earlier. It is so important to know what is non negotiable for me and what I can't accept, especially because I am a love addict. Because if I don't choose wisely right from the beginning I will suffer. I 've been there so many times! Wanting to leave because basic values were violated, but not being able to, due to my fear of loneliness. Maybe I have written a lot and I am not even sure if a man like that exists, but for now these are my values:
1.Be healthy or in recovery from addictions. 2.Be independent (not to leave with mum😏, have a job, a decent place, a car) 3.Be gentle, not critical or ironic. 4.Be willing for a commited relationship. 5.Be respectful, faithful, not flirting with other women or praise about exes and fans. 6.Be tender and erotic. Want physical contact, eye contact, kisses, hugs etc. Have a high libido. Be straight. Use condom. 7.Respect my children. 8.Believe in God. 9.Be decent,not be agressive, not steal, not lie, not take advantage of people. 10.Be clean. 11.Like to spend time outdoors, travelling, having dinner, dancing, being with friends. 12.Be able to discuss, forgive and let go in any disagreements. Not be distant and unavailable for more than a few hours. 13.Respect women and not consider them inferior
Preferences I would like him to: 1.Like dancing. 2.Be attractive, tall and strong. 3.Be intelligent. 4.Have a good sense of humor. 5.Be a good listener, have empathy. 6.Respect the environment. 7.Love animals, but not have a cat in the house because I am allergic. 8.Be successful and prosperous. 9.Be able and willing to fix small things in the house,not be lazy. 10.Be able to refuse something politely and accept it if I want to do something even if he doesn't want to participate. 11.Have friends and interests. 12.Be playful, but not ridiculous 13.Be romantic and generous.
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Post by loveelleng on Jan 10, 2021 13:19:33 GMT -8
I think this very complicated. you refrer to " true love" infact. lots of people in the world in fact never experienced true love. if you can still accept his negtive part, it still works, but if you feel you really want some high quality love, you can leave. it is all your choices.
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Post by loveelleng on Jan 10, 2021 13:22:29 GMT -8
I wish I had read this thread earlier. It is so important to know what is non negotiable for me and what I can't accept, especially because I am a love addict. Because if I don't choose wisely right from the beginning I will suffer. I 've been there so many times! Wanting to leave because basic values were violated, but not being able to, due to my fear of loneliness. Maybe I have written a lot and I am not even sure if a man like that exists, but for now these are my values: 1.Be healthy or in recovery from addictions. 2.Be independent (not to leave with mum😏, have a job, a decent place, a car) 3.Be gentle, not critical or ironic. 4.Be willing for a commited relationship. 5.Be respectful, faithful, not flirting with other women or praise about exes and fans. 6.Be tender and erotic. Want physical contact, eye contact, kisses, hugs etc. Have a high libido. Be straight. Use condom. 7.Respect my children. 8.Believe in God. 9.Be decent,not be agressive, not steal, not lie, not take advantage of people. 10.Be clean. 11.Like to spend time outdoors, travelling, having dinner, dancing, being with friends. 12.Be able to discuss, forgive and let go in any disagreements. Not be distant and unavailable for more than a few hours. 13.Respect women and not consider them inferior Preferences I would like him to: 1.Like dancing. 2.Be attractive, tall and strong. 3.Be intelligent. 4.Have a good sense of humor. 5.Be a good listener, have empathy. 6.Respect the environment. 7.Love animals, but not have a cat in the house because I am allergic. 8.Be successful and prosperous. 9.Be able and willing to fix small things in the house,not be lazy. 10.Be able to refuse something politely and accept it if I want to do something even if he doesn't want to participate. 11.Have friends and interests. 12.Be playful, but not ridiculous 13.Be romantic and generous. Feel free to comment this of course is good, but in reality. need lucky enough to meet this kind of person, and have real deep relationships.
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Post by Sexlessw on Jan 13, 2021 4:48:55 GMT -8
Know what you want in a partner, but be aware nobody is a "perfect" fit. A partner is a person. Not an automation , not ready made for our beliefs and needs. Put too much onto your partner, and that partner may start feeling constricted.
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Post by RoseNadler on Jan 13, 2021 7:36:42 GMT -8
Don’t expect God-like attributes from a mortal.
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